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Reality of Canadian health care
exclusive to FR | Nov 10, 2013 | Peter O'Donnell

Posted on 11/10/2013 4:09:15 PM PST by Peter ODonnell

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To: driftless2

“Countries like Canada with relatively low minority populations can still pull off a socialized health care system to a degree.”

ONLY because the desperate, impatient, disgusted by waiting times and restrictions can cross to their southern neighbor for the best, most up-to-date and technologically sophisticated medical care in the world.

Take that country away and in 5 years take a good look at the shambles called Canadian Health care


21 posted on 11/10/2013 7:02:42 PM PST by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: CdMGuy

Yeah, but they don’t emigrate from Canada...that’s my point. I’m well aware that people from other countries take advantage of our services or even purchase private health insurance while bragging about their socialized health care systems. I have Brit in-laws who do that. I’m simply saying whatever the faults of the Canadian health care system, most Canadians stay Canadians.


22 posted on 11/10/2013 7:40:38 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yes, but they stay Canadians. You missed my point.


23 posted on 11/10/2013 7:41:39 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Peter ODonnell

Well the Canadian health care system sure works well for...US border cities.

The waits for various labs, specialists, scanning equipment is so long in Ontario that on any day you can drive around Buffalo, NY and look at the various facilities and see many Canadian license plates.

In the Buffalo area alone we have more CAT scan and MRI installations than all of Ontario.

We love our Canadian neighbors but we sure don’t need their rationed health care system.


24 posted on 11/10/2013 8:35:53 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
but a bookkeepers and an entrepreneur are two different things.

Ain't that the truth! The one builds a company, the other manages its costs. One grows by innovation, the other by acquisition. <

There is that not-so-magic moment in every company's life -- when the entrepreneur sells out (or dies) and the accountants take over. The former has seen the company through its youth and adolescence, into its productive adulthood. The latter will manage it thru its maturity and old age.

It's a palpable difference.

25 posted on 11/10/2013 9:07:05 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Peter ODonnell

PFL


26 posted on 11/10/2013 10:50:33 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: driftless2
Countries like Canada with relatively low minority populations can still pull off a socialized health care system to a degree. Most Canadians must approve because I didn’t see masses of Canadians trying to cross the border to get away from socialized medicine the times I’ve visited The Great White North. But I wonder how they’d like it if they had the amount of parasites we have. There’s about 15-20% of the American population who do little or no work and are basically leeches. And of course, we have millions of illegals who receive health care on the tax-payer dime. Canada’s leech population is probably less than 5%.

Thank you!
I recently went to the Maritime Provinces for a visit. They were, by the way, fabulous. Ann of Green Gables, who could forget?
My impression of Canada: white, white, white.
Nothing wrong with that; I just wasn't prepared for it. Lol. GREAT place!
I am from California.

When my husband worked for ARAMCO (Saudi Arabia) we paid NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX...a carrot to sweeten the pot for Americans to go to that God-forsaken place.
And, since we lived OUT of California for 1 year+--no state income taxes.

We made so much money that, after two years, we bought a home in San Francisco, California, paying cash. The house was paid for in nine short years.
After five years though, we KNEW that it was time to come home. Money isn't important as people. Lesson learned.

There were a substantial amount of Canadians over there too. I learned a lot about (aboot) Canada too.

27 posted on 11/11/2013 10:17:55 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Peter ODonnell

Thanks for posting this, Peter.

I have had a few occasions to go to the emergency room over the past number of years, and I can say that the service I received was very good (at hospitals in more than one city). The downside, as was noted by someone above, was that since my injuries were painful (broken bones, torn ligaments) but not in any way life-threatening, I did spend a number of hours in each case unattended. Fortunately, the pain was bearable, and I had brought something to read.

Our system is neither the cure-all (no pun intended) that its most ardent supporters think it is, nor is it the living hell that free-market-medicine proponents mischaracterize it as. We receive excellent medical care, albeit attended by the inefficiencies that any economist will tell you to expect.

Unfortunately, we’ve been conditioned to recoil in horror at the mention of “two-tier” medical care, where the public system and a user-pay system exist side-by-side. I would be all for it; I can’t think of a single moral reason why any Canadian shouldn’t be allowed to buy medical care from private facilities on a cash-and-carry basis. Wouldn’t that just free up resources for the rest of us?


28 posted on 11/11/2013 10:33:43 AM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: cloudmountain

It’s not the fact that places have minorities or non-whites, like everybody else it’s the crime. My wife and I love to visit the southwest where there are large populations of non-”white” people. We’ve never felt unsafe. We’ve been in the El Paso marketplace close to the international bridge and didn’t feel a bit worried. And there were only a few other anglo-looking people out of a large crowd of shoppers.


29 posted on 11/11/2013 1:30:18 PM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2
It’s not the fact that places have minorities or non-whites, like everybody else it’s the crime. My wife and I love to visit the southwest where there are large populations of non-”white” people. We’ve never felt unsafe. We’ve been in the El Paso marketplace close to the international bridge and didn’t feel a bit worried. And there were only a few other anglo-looking people out of a large crowd of shoppers.

Gotcha.
It's odd, isn't it, where we feel safe and where we don't. It doesn't seem to matter where or when, but our own opinions.

30 posted on 11/11/2013 1:34:59 PM PST by cloudmountain
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