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The GOP civil war: Pregame predictions
Washington Times | October 22, 2013 | It’s All Smoke and Whiskey by Conor Higgins

Posted on 10/23/2013 2:48:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 10/23/2013 2:48:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Sorry - here is the LINK: The GOP civil war: Pregame predictions
2 posted on 10/23/2013 2:49:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The current situaion here in the U.S. is sounding more and more like Star Wars every day


3 posted on 10/23/2013 3:12:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The partial government shutdown affected only 17% of the government which needs to be downsized and it partially cut spending for Obamacare as well. What’s the point of reversing this?


4 posted on 10/23/2013 3:12:35 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: jsanders2001

The current situaion here in the U.S. is sounding more and more like Star Wars every day

Soros = Emporer Palatine
Obama = Dark Vader


5 posted on 10/23/2013 3:13:40 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MulberryDraw

The tragedy of the partial shutdown is that it was not made permanent with intentions to steadily increase the portion shut down.


6 posted on 10/23/2013 3:37:10 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And this is why I was not in favor of the shutdown stunt.

The GOP will fragment, and when that happens we will wake up with the Dems controlling all three branches of government.

The GOPe has now realized the TEA party is its biggest threat, and will start actively campaigning against it. Which pretty much insures that 2014 will go to the Dems.

The shutdown stunt had zero chance of success, and a high probability of splitting the party when it is weak already


7 posted on 10/23/2013 4:09:15 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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History: in 1856, the Establishment Whigs (RINOS of the day) wanted to ignore slavery and just give away their goodies. The Tea Party, then called the Republicans, wanted to get serious about ending slavery by starting in the territories. They split the vote and put in Dem James Buchanan. But in 1860, The Dem radicals had so overplayed THEIR hand that THEY split their own party and the new Republicans won and didn't look back til, really, 1912 (I don't count Cleveland, who was more "Republican" than someone like Harrison.

A party split amble a good thing.

8 posted on 10/23/2013 4:11:45 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: redgolum

The Republican either rethinks it’s position on the Tea Party or it dies.

If it dies it deserves to die. Those killing it are McCain and his crowd of old hangers on who should have been gone long ago.

We need an age limit for those serving in Congress and term limits. If we don’t get them we need to age limit and term limit them with our vote.


9 posted on 10/23/2013 4:15:38 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: redgolum

Gee there is an ideological split in the Republican Party because their is an ideological split in the Republican Party. Deal with it. Karl is that you?


10 posted on 10/23/2013 4:17:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: redgolum

The TEA party has now realized the GOPe is its biggest threat, and will start actively campaigning against it. Which pretty much insures that 2014 will go to the Dems.

The GOP will fragment, and when that happens we will wake up with the Dems controlling all three branches of government.

Yes, this is true, the GOPe needs to be done away with.


11 posted on 10/23/2013 4:18:14 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: redgolum

Got news for you buddy....the party was split a long time ago...

We are going to drive the progressives OUT or burn the party to the ground....COUNT ON IT!

THAT is the price for TREASON.


12 posted on 10/23/2013 4:35:49 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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Ok, and in part I agree.

But you just handed the Dems a ten to twenty year majority. During which the demographic change is such that the TEA party will be gone anyway.

Think strategy, not tactics. To much of the GOP/TEA party is based on short term views, and not long term goals.

13 posted on 10/23/2013 5:21:35 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: central_va
LOL! No.

Mearly a man who has studied history, and knows that it is much easier to destroy than to build. Blowing up the GOP may be fun, but making a viable party in our current system is almost impossible.

Do you want ten to twenty years of uncontested Dem majorities in order to pee on the GOP?

14 posted on 10/23/2013 5:23:15 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
I don't know about you, but these "GOP Establishment" types are the very same RINOs that we all spend all of our time despising around here.

If we have to sit out of power a few cycles to purge the party of them, it's worth it in my view. There's no difference between having them in the party and us sitting out elections anyway. They virtually always vote with the Des anyways.

15 posted on 10/23/2013 5:27:43 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Obama&Admin=An army of deer, led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions led by a deer)
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To: redgolum

Yo are really what I hate the most. The Tea Party is based on PRINCIPLES of the founding of the country and the constitution. You little system gamer types need to STHU.


16 posted on 10/23/2013 5:28:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Then so be it. I am almost to the point where the game is no longer fun, and I know enough history to see the next act. We are waiting for Augustus now.

But if you are trying to advance your goals, it will take a generation or two at least. The GOP isn’t much, but it at least wants to appear that they are the loyal opposition. Take it out and you don’t even have that half a seat at the table.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 5:30:13 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

We cannot win by electing Democrats in RINO clothing no matter what the consequences.

Long term, short term, doesn’t matter. Just winning is not the answer if the Republicans we elect think the same way Democrats do


18 posted on 10/23/2013 5:31:28 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: redgolum
To me, that choice is either to support Ted Cruz and Mike Lee or John McCain and Lindsey Graham. There's no contest and no question of who I support.

I want a Republican Party that will take on these liberal ideologues, not one that will fight it's own party to help them pass all of their favorite pet crusades.

19 posted on 10/23/2013 5:56:45 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Obama&Admin=An army of deer, led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions led by a deer)
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To: central_va

Strategy you fool.

Politics is a game.

The TEA party is the vehicle for someone. It appeared quickly with a lot of funding and organization. Someone is using the TEA party as stalking horse.


20 posted on 10/23/2013 5:59:17 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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