Posted on 08/20/2013 11:07:33 AM PDT by marktwain
I would like to see legislation to clarify that anyone who might have reason to doubt the legitimacy of a government agent's actions has the right to question it; one of the duties of a government agent is to dispel any such reasonable doubts, and government agents should not bristle at being asked to do their duty.
I agree. Reading the article, it appears that the deputies believed that a uniform should be all that was required.
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“He then asked Malley to surrender his weapon, and Malley replied, “You aren’t taking my weapons.”
The deputy then said he would wait for additional units to arrive before taking anyone’s weapons.”
Sounds reasonable to me. Yes, cops do have the right to disarm you in order to control the scene while they investigate what is happening. Anyone who thinks otherwise is likely to end up in jail, with reason.
If a badge is not enough, then what is? Do they need your Momma to come out and vouch for them?
What do YOU consider sufficient ID?
I would believe department credentials. When I was a peace officer for a while, the requirements for credentials were set in state law, and anyone could read them. For example, there had to be a state seal applied to the credentials that overlapped the photograph.
I did not see anywhere in the article that the deputies even showed a badge. Maybe they were wearing one, maybe not.
Very little information in the article.
I would like to know if they were in a civilian vehicle, a marked squad, or an unmarked official vehicle.
When you are many miles in the middle of nowhere, probably without cell phone coverage, at a known drug/people smuggling corridor, it pays to be cautious, for both sides.
“Sounds reasonable to me.”
Yes, to me to. Apparently it sounded reasonable to Mr. Malley as well, as there is no indication that he did not cooperate when the backup arrived.
So it turns out it was an unmarked car, the deputies were in camouflage, not regular uniforms, and did not display badges.
Not only that, but they were deliberately playacting as drug dealers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3056922/posts
Thanks for the update.
It makes sense if you assume their objective is to condition the public to automatically *comply* with any and all orders, no matter how illogical or unconstitutional.
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