Posted on 05/29/2013 8:28:02 PM PDT by RightFighter
Thats the story that the State of Florida would like for you to believe. The truth is that almost none of that story is true, and its well past time for the State to acknowledge the holes in their narrative and drop the charges against George Zimmerman.
We know" (insert standard disclaimer here about nothing having been proven in court - but note, that is normally a line in favor of the defendant, not the prosecutor) all that. The real issue is not whether it is reasonable to convict on the facts, but whether a reasonable verdict based on the facts can be a reasonable verdict for the jurors to announce and subsequently live with.There is much more here to discuss regarding the weakness of the States case against George Zimmerman. Prosecutors know all of the facts outlined above, and they know how little their probable cause affidavit has to do with reality. Even if some or most of this evidence about Trayvons character is inadmissible in a court of law, it is not off limits for a prosecutors use in determining the appropriateness of the charges against George Zimmerman. Perhaps, through the efforts of a corrupt States Attorney and the hanging judge who appears determined to railroad Zimmerman to prison and will do so by excluding any discussion of the proclivities of Trayvon Martin toward violence and drugs, the State will win a conviction in this case. If they do so, however, the real loser wont be George Zimmerman, whose conviction will almost certainly be overturned on appeal. The real loser will be our system of justice in the State of Florida.
Obviously, the risk of violence ensuing from an acquittal is nothing to sneeze at, but there are two other considerations. One, would it not be equally likely for a guilty verdict to precipitate a riot, on the grounds that the presumption of white racism is vindicated? Second, would not the propaganda media influence potentially riotous behavior in either case? I put it to you that the public interest lies in not having a riot - and for the right reasons. The public interest lies in having the public fully informed about all the ins and outs of the case. It is not merely George Zimmerman who is on trial, the legitimacy of the Establishment is on trial, as it is in every criminal case.And, in fact, the real trial of the Establishment is scheduled for after the criminal trial of George Zimmerman. The real trial of the Establishment, which should precede the criminal trial, is the civil suit Zimmerman has filed against NBC. Zimmerman should have never agreed to delay it until after the criminal trial, as if the tort of editing out the context of Zimmermans He looks black comment - and broadcasting the resulting libel to the whole world - would not be a tort if Zimmerman is convicted of the murder charge.
And it is not just NBC which should be on trial in that case; journalism as a whole is guilty of promoting the atmosphere which produced the (on the merits of the case, irrational) arrest and indictment of George Zimmerman. Establishment journalism as a whole - for which the best proxy is the Associated Press and its members individually - should be called to account in civil court for everything that has happened to George Zimmerman and his family since he was released by the police, for whatever residual effects that propaganda campaign will have on the family in the future, and for every dime of damages which arise from any riot which might ensue on a not guilty verdict (or for that matter a guilty verdict).
In that trial, there would be no escape for Establishment journalism from all the facts surrounding the case - not only the reasons why your first paragraph, which not only is an accurate portrayal of the prosecutions case, but also reads like a parody of the actual facts surrounding the case. In that trial, perhaps, the reality that a defense of Zimmerman is inherently, and can only be, an attack on the decedent Trayvon Martin would allow the facts about St. Skittles to be brought into evidence.
If the journalism Establishment were confronted with responsibility for the actual costs of its tendentiousness, perhaps it would have the prudence to use its incalculable influence to defuse the situation before the murder trial. And even, as you suggest, to obliterate the rationale for the mockery of a trial which the prosecution has planned for George Zimmerman.
If in fact Zimmerman is acquitted and a riot ensues, the people of Florida deserve nothing less than that the governor call out the National Guard and read the riot act to all TV and radio broadcasters in the state - telling them that they would broadcast the exculpatory truths vindicating the decision, and nothing else, until order was restored - or they will be shut down by the National Guard.
So you’re saying Zimmerman has a chance then?
More recently, the defense has released photos of Martin that show him holding a gun in his hand, and smoking and growing marijuana.
I don't believe that there is any evidence that Martin is the one holding the gun in that picture that was on his phone. And for that matter, is there any way to prove that the smoke coming out of Martin's mouth in the picture was marijuana and not cigarettes?
Yes. There is ZERO chance of a conviction by the jury, in my opinion. I dither on the chances of acquittal vs. hung jury. Worst case, 50-50, best case, 15% chance of a hung jury, 85% chance of acquittal.
If the jury hangs, I think the DCA takes the decision away from Nelson and the state. There is not enough evidence to support a conviction, as a matter of law. Never was.
I’m not sure if I’ll be at the courthouse. I might go over and meet Nettles.
I have been very up front about my initial reaction to this case and how wrong I was. I was not alone in that reaction, since the entire country was being inundated with the “Racist white guy shoots unarmed kid” narrative on every single channel you turned on. I encounter people every single day who have only recently begun to see the truth about this case, and it’s been almost a year and a half since it happened. I’ve expressed regret here in these forums and in several other places about my reaction, and I’ve more than made up for it with my advocacy on George’s behalf. What have you done to help him?
So, let me put this as eloquently as possible - you can take your holier than thou attitude and shove it right up your ass.
As to your "";Road to Damascus" epiphany, The residends learned the hard way to beware when a foe appears to be friendly.
As far as your "advocating " for him goes after you helped place the nose around his neck, will you do his time when he is convicted?
Seems like he should at least get some recognition for realizing his error and now advocating for the truth. A lot of other FReepers (you guys know who you are) who were ready to put Zimmerman in front of a firing squad have yet to come forward.
I had heated conversations with many of them, as they were swallowing the MSM narrative hook, line and sinker at the time.
Please reconsider as we need first hand reports from the scene.
RightFigher, my "holier that thou" attitude probably fit up my ass anyway. Sometimes my mouth runs wild and I stick my nose where it has no business. As I did in your case. I would say that I was sorry, but judging me by the same standard I judged you,being sorry after the fact is not good enough.
What I will say is they you were right in telling me to stick my holier than thou attitude up my ass and I was wrong in critizing you.
Here you go Ackbar:
The Scheme Team has moved from the witness tampering stage now that depositions are over to the jury tampering stage.
They will no doubt have an early copy of Judge Nelson’s jury questionaire and be advising attendants on how to fill it out.
{extends hand of friendship}
I accept!
What’s a fair trial compared to the possibility of a repeat of the Los Angeles Riots?
Hey sport, I wrote something you might want to read.
http://ackbarsays.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/why-i-support-george-zimmerman/
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