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Standing Up For George Zimmerman
AckbarSays ^ | 5/29/2013 | AckbarSays

Posted on 05/29/2013 8:28:02 PM PDT by RightFighter

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To: RightFighter
On the evening of February 26, 2012, at approximately 7:16PM, a white vigilante named George Zimmerman, fueled by racial animosity, called police to report that he was suspicious of an African-American child based entirely on his skin color and the hoodie sweatshirt he was wearing. George ignored clear instructions from police and chased down Trayvon Martin, who was unarmed and had been on his way back from a trip to the store to purchase iced tea and Skittles for his younger brother. Zimmerman held Trayvon at gunpoint and allowed him to scream for help for 42 seconds before Zimmerman pulled the trigger, and then he immediately set about constructing a false story of self-defense to cover for his murderous actions.

That’s the story that the State of Florida would like for you to believe. The truth is that almost none of that story is true, and it’s well past time for the State to acknowledge the holes in their narrative and drop the charges against George Zimmerman.

We “know" (insert standard disclaimer here about nothing having been proven in court - but note, that is normally a line in favor of the defendant, not the prosecutor) all that. The real issue is not whether it is reasonable to convict on the facts, but whether a reasonable verdict based on the facts can be a “reasonable” verdict for the jurors to announce and subsequently live with.
There is much more here to discuss regarding the weakness of the State’s case against George Zimmerman. Prosecutors know all of the facts outlined above, and they know how little their probable cause affidavit has to do with reality. Even if some or most of this evidence about Trayvon’s character is inadmissible in a court of law, it is not off limits for a prosecutor’s use in determining the appropriateness of the charges against George Zimmerman. Perhaps, through the efforts of a corrupt State’s Attorney and the hanging judge who appears determined to railroad Zimmerman to prison and will do so by excluding any discussion of the proclivities of Trayvon Martin toward violence and drugs, the State will win a conviction in this case. If they do so, however, the real loser won’t be George Zimmerman, whose conviction will almost certainly be overturned on appeal. The real loser will be our system of justice in the State of Florida.
Obviously, the risk of violence ensuing from an acquittal is nothing to sneeze at, but there are two other considerations. One, would it not be equally likely for a guilty verdict to precipitate a riot, on the grounds that the presumption of white racism is vindicated? Second, would not the propaganda media influence potentially riotous behavior in either case? I put it to you that the public interest lies in not having a riot - and for the right reasons. The public interest lies in having the public fully informed about all the ins and outs of the case. It is not merely George Zimmerman who is on trial, the legitimacy of the Establishment is on trial, as it is in every criminal case.

And, in fact, the real trial of the Establishment is scheduled for after the criminal trial of George Zimmerman. The real trial of the Establishment, which should precede the criminal trial, is the civil suit Zimmerman has filed against NBC. Zimmerman should have never agreed to delay it until after the criminal trial, as if the tort of editing out the context of Zimmerman’s “He looks black” comment - and broadcasting the resulting libel to the whole world - would not be a tort if Zimmerman is convicted of the murder charge.

And it is not just NBC which should be on trial in that case; journalism as a whole is guilty of promoting the atmosphere which produced the (on the merits of the case, irrational) arrest and indictment of George Zimmerman. Establishment journalism as a whole - for which the best proxy is the Associated Press and its members individually - should be called to account in civil court for everything that has happened to George Zimmerman and his family since he was released by the police, for whatever residual effects that propaganda campaign will have on the family in the future, and for every dime of damages which arise from any riot which might ensue on a “not guilty” verdict (or for that matter a “guilty” verdict).

In that trial, there would be no escape for Establishment journalism from all the facts surrounding the case - not only the reasons why your first paragraph, which not only is an accurate portrayal of the prosecution’s case, but also reads like a parody of the actual facts surrounding the case. In that trial, perhaps, the reality that a defense of Zimmerman is inherently, and can only be, an attack on the decedent Trayvon Martin would allow the facts about St. Skittles to be brought into evidence.

If the journalism Establishment were confronted with responsibility for the actual costs of its tendentiousness, perhaps it would have the prudence to use its incalculable influence to defuse the situation before the murder trial. And even, as you suggest, to obliterate the rationale for the mockery of a trial which the prosecution has planned for George Zimmerman.

If in fact Zimmerman is acquitted and a riot ensues, the people of Florida deserve nothing less than that the governor call out the National Guard and read the riot act to all TV and radio broadcasters in the state - telling them that they would broadcast the exculpatory truths vindicating the decision, and nothing else, until order was restored - or they will be shut down by the National Guard.


41 posted on 05/30/2013 1:20:14 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Cboldt

So you’re saying Zimmerman has a chance then?


42 posted on 05/30/2013 4:57:59 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: RightFighter
Good post... just one nit to pick: :-)

More recently, the defense has released photos of Martin that show him holding a gun in his hand, and smoking and growing marijuana.

I don't believe that there is any evidence that Martin is the one holding the gun in that picture that was on his phone. And for that matter, is there any way to prove that the smoke coming out of Martin's mouth in the picture was marijuana and not cigarettes?

43 posted on 05/30/2013 7:04:58 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Jacob Kell
-- So you're saying Zimmerman has a chance then? --

Yes. There is ZERO chance of a conviction by the jury, in my opinion. I dither on the chances of acquittal vs. hung jury. Worst case, 50-50, best case, 15% chance of a hung jury, 85% chance of acquittal.

If the jury hangs, I think the DCA takes the decision away from Nelson and the state. There is not enough evidence to support a conviction, as a matter of law. Never was.

44 posted on 05/30/2013 8:28:19 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Uncle Chip

I’m not sure if I’ll be at the courthouse. I might go over and meet Nettles.


45 posted on 05/31/2013 7:48:57 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: sport

I have been very up front about my initial reaction to this case and how wrong I was. I was not alone in that reaction, since the entire country was being inundated with the “Racist white guy shoots unarmed kid” narrative on every single channel you turned on. I encounter people every single day who have only recently begun to see the truth about this case, and it’s been almost a year and a half since it happened. I’ve expressed regret here in these forums and in several other places about my reaction, and I’ve more than made up for it with my advocacy on George’s behalf. What have you done to help him?

So, let me put this as eloquently as possible - you can take your holier than thou attitude and shove it right up your ass.


46 posted on 05/31/2013 8:06:54 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: RightFighter
I would say that I cared or was concerned about what you thought or said, but i would be lying.

As to your "";Road to Damascus" epiphany, The residends learned the hard way to beware when a foe appears to be friendly.

As far as your "advocating " for him goes after you helped place the nose around his neck, will you do his time when he is convicted?

47 posted on 05/31/2013 9:09:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport; RightFighter

Seems like he should at least get some recognition for realizing his error and now advocating for the truth. A lot of other FReepers (you guys know who you are) who were ready to put Zimmerman in front of a firing squad have yet to come forward.

I had heated conversations with many of them, as they were swallowing the MSM narrative hook, line and sinker at the time.


48 posted on 05/31/2013 9:54:39 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: RightFighter
I’m not sure if I’ll be at the courthouse.

Please reconsider as we need first hand reports from the scene.

49 posted on 05/31/2013 10:27:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 101stAirborneVet; RightFighter
You are correct. Upon further reflection and when I was in a saner frame of mind I realized that I went a little too far maybe. But what actually convinced me was when I read my response. Anyone that does not have the intelligence to type: The residence of Troy learned the hard way to beware when a foe appears to be friendly" has no business critizing anyone else' actions.

RightFigher, my "holier that thou" attitude probably fit up my ass anyway. Sometimes my mouth runs wild and I stick my nose where it has no business. As I did in your case. I would say that I was sorry, but judging me by the same standard I judged you,being sorry after the fact is not good enough.

What I will say is they you were right in telling me to stick my holier than thou attitude up my ass and I was wrong in critizing you.

50 posted on 05/31/2013 11:23:13 AM PDT by sport
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To: RightFighter

Here you go Ackbar:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-trayvon-martin-peace-miami-20130531,0,2094797.story?track=rss

The Scheme Team has moved from the witness tampering stage now that depositions are over to the jury tampering stage.

They will no doubt have an early copy of Judge Nelson’s jury questionaire and be advising attendants on how to fill it out.


51 posted on 05/31/2013 12:08:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sport

{extends hand of friendship}


52 posted on 06/01/2013 10:15:32 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: RightFighter

I accept!


53 posted on 06/01/2013 11:53:58 AM PDT by sport
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To: RightFighter

What’s a fair trial compared to the possibility of a repeat of the Los Angeles Riots?


54 posted on 06/01/2013 12:11:39 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: sport

Hey sport, I wrote something you might want to read.

http://ackbarsays.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/why-i-support-george-zimmerman/


55 posted on 06/06/2013 11:03:08 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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