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Survival Antibiotics
doomandbloom.net ^ | 4/8/13 | Dr. Bones and Nurse Amy

Posted on 04/09/2013 3:34:10 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Iron Munro

I purchased a Physicians Desk Reference and a Nurses guide to drugs. They provide dosage information based on mg.


41 posted on 04/09/2013 5:14:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

I’m a big fan of the fish antibiotics. It was particularly amusing when I filled a prescription for antibiotics and found that the pills were identical, just more expensive than the corresponding ones for fish.


42 posted on 04/09/2013 5:19:52 PM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: Pollster1

I’m sure they will be taken off the market now that the preppers are saying use them for humans. Really smart.


43 posted on 04/09/2013 5:23:47 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Rushmore Rocks
While these antibiotics may be identically-formulated to their human counterparts any use of such antibiotics should only be under the most desperate circumstances. For example, you might give yourself the wrong antibiotic, or you may not know how many doses that you need, resulting in the bug becoming drug-resistant.

Also, if you self-prescribe then on a future visit with a doctor the doctor may not have a precise record of what you have taken.

44 posted on 04/09/2013 5:24:54 PM PDT by The Duke (We don't rent pigs, but apparently we *do* ELECT them.)
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To: driftdiver

“Chemicals don’t have a calendar, they don’t go bad one day past their expiration date.”

They slowly degrade starting with the day they are compounded. There are a lot of depends on the half life of that curve. It depends upon the type of packaging, the amount of oxidation, the level of humidity, the amount of time it is cold or hot, etc. Storage of powder or pills in simple sealed plastic bottles still allows oxygen to transpire and be available to enable oxidation.

That is why foods are stored in mylar films with foil layers and oxygen absorbers. That makes a wonderful Google research adventure.


45 posted on 04/09/2013 5:30:29 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the reminder. I’ve had the vendor sites bookmarked, I need to get some ordered.


46 posted on 04/09/2013 5:31:38 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: driftdiver
Then go with his recommendation. I can tell you if the choice is die from an infection or take some anti-biotics a month past their date the decision is easy.

That sounds kind of familiar.

47 posted on 04/09/2013 5:35:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Well aren’t you the smart one then.


48 posted on 04/09/2013 5:39:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DesertRhino; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!

Study Highlights Debate Over Drug Expiration Dates

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/771253/study_highlights_debate_over_drug_expiration_dates/

Drugs Frequently Potent Past Expiration

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/04/02/drug-expiration-part-one.aspx

Shelf Life of Medicine:
Drug Tests Conducted for the U.S. Military

http://www.grandpappy.info/hshelfm.htm


49 posted on 04/09/2013 5:40:03 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: driftdiver

What the hell is your problem? Agreeing with you is making you mad? WTF?


50 posted on 04/09/2013 5:40:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

I just took some expired antibiotics without running the titration test.


51 posted on 04/09/2013 5:42:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Well, goody goody for you!!! lol


52 posted on 04/09/2013 5:43:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Tiger,

As a general proposition, yes they may go bad. But no way in hell for ANY product does the product go bad one day after the expiration date. The reason is purely for litigation liability purposes. If the product goes bad BEFORE the expiration date, it is because of manufacturing/product failures. The safety factor is built in to reduce litigation exposure for almost all product manufacturers (there may be one that I can’t think of).


53 posted on 04/09/2013 5:44:20 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Kartographer

Good articles, thanks for posting.


54 posted on 04/09/2013 5:45:59 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SgtHooper
But no way in hell for ANY product does the product go bad one day after the expiration date.

No s#$t? LOL

55 posted on 04/09/2013 5:46:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Ah, you are one of those that need clarifications on that which you speak. :-)


56 posted on 04/09/2013 5:48:12 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

No, I am one who gives clarifications on that which I have spoke. Over and over. lol


57 posted on 04/09/2013 5:53:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Kartographer

Doctor Bones has posted on his blog that he believes (and backs it up with certain studies IIRC) that antibiotics can be useable for a long time past their expiration date.

Obviously, prudence and evaluation is called for but as somebody else mentioned if it’s a call between developing sepsis and taking antibiotics that are past date, I’ll opt for the latter.

To add to your list, in addition to sulfonamides such as Bactrim for a urinary infection, you can purchase pyridium over the counter which is of tremendous benefit in urinary infection discomfort relief. Turns the urine orange.


58 posted on 04/09/2013 6:02:13 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: All

I’d also add the possibility of a couple of monistat cream treatments for yeast infections.


59 posted on 04/09/2013 6:05:29 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Have you bought anything there?


60 posted on 04/09/2013 6:11:12 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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