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Worldwide derivatives market could be over $1.2 quadrillion in notional value
25 March 2013 | Gaius Publius

Posted on 03/26/2013 9:50:57 PM PDT by Lorianne

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1 posted on 03/26/2013 9:50:57 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

http://americablog.com/2013/03/the-worldwide-derivatives-market-could-be-over-1-2-quadrillion-in-notional-value.html


2 posted on 03/26/2013 9:51:18 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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That’s all too complicated for me. I’m going to see if American Idol is on.


3 posted on 03/26/2013 9:52:50 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Lorianne

ping


4 posted on 03/26/2013 9:59:02 PM PDT by laplata
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To: 21twelve

Buy so bubble gum. Blow some bubbles. Have them pop all over your face. That pretty much sums up what is happening. ;-)


5 posted on 03/26/2013 10:08:16 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SubMareener

Buy so bubble gum. Blow some bubbles. Have them pop all over your face. That pretty much sums up what is happening. ;-)


Not a good image.


6 posted on 03/26/2013 10:15:36 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Lorianne

Whats another few zeros? /s


7 posted on 03/26/2013 10:17:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SubMareener; Lancey Howard

The only trouble is I’m a REALLY good bubble-gum chewer. And it is FUN to chew gum and blow bubbles. And they NEVER pop!

Add in all of the computerized trading and it gets really scary. Freeper LH shared the following link awhile ago on Stock Trading Algorithms. 15 minutes, but VERY interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDaFwnOiKVE


8 posted on 03/26/2013 10:26:52 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Lorianne

Seems to me that this is a problem only to the extent that governments feel they need to bail them out... With numbers like this, they can’t. So who looses


9 posted on 03/26/2013 10:27:06 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Lorianne

Notional value - what somebody says something is worth. Documentation is not necessary.

My $25,000 Focus has a notional value of $1,000,000. However, because I’m such a nice guy, I will be willing willing to,sell it for half its notional value.

In other words, notional value is the same in saying the value is made up.


10 posted on 03/26/2013 10:31:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Lorianne

it’s all fake. it’s fake money based on non-existing products.


11 posted on 03/26/2013 10:32:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Lorianne

WOULD YOU PLEASE NOT USE THE WORD “QUADRILLION”. WHAT IF OBAMA FINDS OUT THAT THERE’S SOMETHING BIGGER THAN A TRILLION?


12 posted on 03/26/2013 10:45:08 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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Sounds like they are getting ready to run us around the pole again.
What they aren't mentioning is the billions of dollars in campaign contributions that the bankers pay out to be allowed to run this bookmaking operation.
13 posted on 03/26/2013 10:46:13 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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What is important to realize about all this is that the whole world, all the major economic powers and blocs are primed to blow up: China, Japan, the US, and Europe. It is not like some of these are acting as stabilizers for the others. They are all pursuing unsustainable courses and becoming increasingly unstable. The result is likely to be a cascading failure and mega-meltdown. There should be nothing surprising about this. None of the underlying problems have been fixed. They are all still there. They are getting worse and more problems are being added to them with each new crisis. Something will have to give. It is not a question of if but when, like a weak and poorly built dam holding back a 500 year flood, or like being in a munitions factory, gunpowder spilled all over the floor, and matches being flicked about. It will explode. The financial sector controls the economy and government. But it does not control the math, and in the end the math will win out.


14 posted on 03/26/2013 10:49:51 PM PDT by wolfman
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To: wolfman

Well said.


15 posted on 03/27/2013 12:13:01 AM PDT by laplata
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To: Lorianne
It seems, IIRC that the problem is worse then what is stated here. I saw an article on FR this past winter that, according to The International Bank of Settlement, the top six banks in the US had a derivative exposure of $1.65 quadrillion.

Methinks the house of cards is teetering....

16 posted on 03/27/2013 12:13:50 AM PDT by Wingy
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Quadrillion?? That’s just enough for golf and dinner \Obama


17 posted on 03/27/2013 1:53:35 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: wolfman; Lorianne

I know this is simplistic but please follow my logic.

1. The raw materials are there.
2. The Workers are available.
3. The Factories are there.
4. Products can be made.
5. The transportation infrastructure is there.
6. The Stores are there.
7. The Customers are there.

So what completes it?

The medium that allows value to be transferred readily among all those factor and more. We call that money and it’s really useful because who want to carry around a Cow to trade for a tree to trade for a carpenter to make a house for example.

What is about to mess up not only our economy but the world economy is that a some people have decided to trade around money itself in ways that don’t actually have a real thing backing up it’s value.

What does that mean to me and most other people? These people aka Bankers are threatening that if they can’t have their illusionary profits then no one can have their real profits, (Backed by real things, Product or labor), then they’ll just take their ball and go home and oh yes, tear up the field, the bleachers and anything that catches their eyes. By the way, what group of people does that sound like by the way? Hint: We have been calling them various names, Takers, Feral Youts, etc.

And so it comes to the bottom line for the Economy. All economies rely upon one thing above all others. TRUST. And when the trust goes so does that economy. And frankly my FRiends the Trust has almost dried up for everyone in this economy. To many people have taken advantage of that trust, Bankers, Politicians and the Takers lead the list.

As my dad once told me when I was young and a friend refused to pay me back the money he had borrowed for ‘just until payday’, that I was to take it as a lesson. I could still be friends with that individual but I learned that I could not TRUST him with any money from then on.

And so it applies now to the Bankers and the others. So what does a person like me do? We withdraw as much as we can and try to minimize our exposure to effects of these people. And we watch, knowing that the whole house of cards is going to fall.

Trust... So hard to create, it’s a daily thing to create trust. Trust... So easy to destroy, all it takes is one thing to do so, and it can be just about anything too.


18 posted on 03/27/2013 3:15:25 AM PDT by The Working Man
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but honestly what happened in Cyprus where they took money wont happen anywhere else...honestly...

if this keeps up i might actually stop having faith in the banking system /end sarc


19 posted on 03/27/2013 4:29:47 AM PDT by Irishguy
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To: Lorianne

derivatives primer


20 posted on 03/27/2013 5:36:20 AM PDT by quintr
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