Is this not simply another version of “swatting”?
From the article “While everyone was gathered in his home, Moore asked the New Jersey caseworker for her name. She wouldn’t give it to him.”
Never let anyone, who is working in an official capacity, into your home without them prodcuing photo ID from their office/department. They are not who they say they are until this is provided. These people do not like to provide ID they love to work under a cloak of anonimity.
Mel
Fox is on this now.
Is this a country we want to live in? Fascist jackbooted thugs threatening to put you in jail and kidnap your kids? is this the USA we knew?
For cripes sake, I held a gun many times when I was that age. Also a member of the NRA at 15.
The real story here is not the Police, but rather DHR. What is more scary? Police asking to see your guns, or some bureaucrat with the power to take your kids? Don’t piss off the DHR lady!
I have a good friend whose wife died. Great father. Home looked kinda rough but his kids were well fed, loved and did well in school. Some busy body who I guess thought a single dad couldn’t take care of kids called DHR. Came knocking on his door one day demanding to inspect his house and talk to his kids. If he didn’t let them in, they threatened to take the children. Scared him to death. Made periodic inspections of his home for the next 2 years.
Is it tar & feather O’clock yet?
This is just how the Obama gun grabbers intend to operate. If you have firearms in your home and have kids its child endangerment and your guns get confiscated. If you are a returning veteran you are assumed to be mentally unstable and your guns get confiscated. If you see your doctor about depression or are prescribed antidepressants or tranquilizers your guns get confiscated. If you are accused of illegally downloading copyrighted music and the police enter your home to confiscate your computer they take your guns too. Not only are your Second Amendment rights under assault so are your rights under the Fourth Amendment.
Facebook is the devil.
While this was abusive, it’s also important to understand the greater context, that of Child Protective Services, in any state.
On one hand, if children are abused or even killed, and they knew something of it, the CPS will get raked over the coals. But, as in this case, if they enter a family situation where abuse is *not* taking place, it is even more brutal on them.
Importantly, this is true in every single state in the union. There *is* no easy or blanket resolution for it either, because each case is unique.
So, what happens is that CPS becomes “complaint driven”. If someone complains to them, they *have* to do something. And if it is a “cold call” on people known to be armed, the CPS will certainly bring cops with them.
In this case, some idiot freaked out because he saw a picture of a boy with a gun. Not surprising, because such fools freak out when children hold their fingers like a gun, or make a vaguely gun-like shape while nibbling on a Pop-Tart.
So perhaps the real failure here was with the police, who automatically backed the CPS person without first checking to see *why* the CPS was investigating. But the police sure as donuts do not want to be blamed if the CPS wants to investigate, but they determine that there is no reason for the CPS to investigate.
So it’s just easier for the police to play along.
However, in this case, they clearly overstepped their authority, which the police most certainly can be blamed for. They could have told the CPS employee that “We can do this up to this point, but no further, without a warrant.”
Which would put the situation back squarely on the CPS.
Probably the best outcome would be for the CPS to have their own in house criminal lawyer, to advise them of what they can and cannot do, as well as what the police can and cannot do.
I recommend this, because it applied in this situation, but with the parent’s lawyer. The end result was the same. The CPS nor the police broke the rules, even though they wanted to, and asked permission to.
Since this will likely not happen soon, if someone has children, it is probably a great idea to have their lawyer available by speed dial.