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Posted on 11/10/2012 12:02:09 PM PST by A'elian' nation

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To: A'elian' nation

You’ll have to stop deflecting and answer my question first.


41 posted on 11/10/2012 1:40:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Barnacle

I’m pretty sure all the Media Marxists are already out of the closet.


42 posted on 11/10/2012 1:40:49 PM PST by GnL
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To: GrannyK

43 posted on 11/10/2012 1:42:24 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: A'elian' nation
Sadly the problem with Romney was that we didn’t humanize him.

I thought they did all they could to re-package an inveterate lying flip-flopping, pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-gun, pro-big government liberal.

44 posted on 11/10/2012 1:42:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: A'elian' nation

How anyone sees and warmth and humanity in the Marxist is beyond me ? I guess it’s good enough to just be hip and cool.


45 posted on 11/10/2012 1:44:35 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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46 posted on 11/10/2012 1:50:30 PM PST by mirkwood
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Whatever, do so


47 posted on 11/10/2012 1:51:32 PM PST by dforest
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To: A'elian' nation

Boehner, tell that marxist if he wants his tax hikes, he gets them.. ALL of them. If one Bush-era tax cut expires, then they ALL expire! If Amerikans think they`re thinking they`re seeing stagnation now... they haven`t BEGUN to see the effects!

Americans showed they wanted this with Tuesday`s vote. So let `em have it... all of it.

And, oh by the way... let...no, DEMAND Obama keep his spending levels as they are or increase them.

Then, in a couple years, the rubes can get back with us with how they`re faring.

Like I said ... Amerika wanted this.


48 posted on 11/10/2012 1:52:17 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: A'elian' nation
Romney and Ryan wanted to have an adult conversation with the Americans.....they wanted to keep their sugar daddy

Let them choke on unicorn farts...

49 posted on 11/10/2012 1:58:55 PM PST by Popman (November 7th...will be a good dafor America..)
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To: montanajoe

Giving Obama his tax hikes can scarcely be blamed on the GOP. They should give Obama every tax and spending hike he wants, then grab the popcorn and watch the fun.

Amerikans need a hard lesson.


50 posted on 11/10/2012 2:01:57 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: A'elian' nation

LET IT BURN is my new motto. The only way for Hussein to be totally and permanently discredited, and for sanity to once again prevail, is to let Obamunism run its course. Give the people want they think they want. When the free cell phone and comdom supplies finally run dry, and all those evil old rich white guys have been shaken down for all of their “fair share,” the Hussein-worshipping masses might begin to have an inkling that something is amiss.


51 posted on 11/10/2012 2:06:36 PM PST by omniscient
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To: omniscient

I disagree.

We need to rebuild America now.

Take the lead, and be a part of the solution.


52 posted on 11/10/2012 2:08:58 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: A'elian' nation

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And do nothing about the massive voter fraud:

UPDATED Sat Nov 10 2012 10:41:25


Barack Obama voter fraud 2012
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

Friday, November 9, 2012 - 22 Updates Posted Today and People You Can Contact! See FRIDAY UPDATES! *

Is this what Barack Obama calls a “ground game?” All things considered, on this page and elsewhere, Mitt Romney IS our President elect. Let’s do something about it!

I’ll be adding additional links on a regular basis and forwarding all of this information to Mitt’s campaign! Please send other links.

Evidence of massive Obama voter fraud in Colorado! Ten counties show 104% to 140% turnout!

http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters- than-people/

Fraud: Some told they already voted, others brag about voting multiple times

http://www.examiner.com/article/fraud-some-told-they-already-voted-oth ers-brag-about-voting-multiple-times

Crooked Politics: Obama Lost in Every State With Photo ID Law

Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…

[a href=”http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations- where-gop-inspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for -obama/”]http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-statio ns-where-gop-i nspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/&quo t;]

Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…

[a href=”http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations- where-gop-inspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for -obama/”]http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-statio ns-where-gop-i nspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/

[Sounds like those Black Panthers who kicked out the GOP observers and stood guard at the polling stations were not just trying to intimidate voters! They were hiding something!]

Voter Fraud Watch: Two Election Judges Replaced After Illegal Activity in Ohio - Fox News Insider

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/07/voter-fraud-watch-two-election-ju dges-replaced-after-illegal-activity-in-ohio/

Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2012/11/05/Why-the-Polls-are-Wrong- Poll-Shows-Electorate-is-R-6

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fraud-alert-one-out-of-five -registered-ohio-voters-is-bogus/#.UJrnpl7Imc0.facebook

via @BeachCity55 on Twitter: Senior parents in Florida told not to put their ballots through their reader but in a box. Senior votes in FL not counted?

Data Points To A Powerful Romney Campaign – And Yet…He Lost?
http://goo.gl/GB723

“You have to vote for Dems” NYC poll worker tells GOP Senate candidate #IllegalElectioneering
http://goo.gl/nn5CN

At least 70,000 report voting problems, mostly in swing states
http://goo.gl/jjCSX

Plane crash destroys Afghanistan US military ballots, most of which are for Mitt Romney
http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416[.url]

Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…

[a href=”http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations- where-g op-i nspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/&quo t;]http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations-where-g op-i nspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/

[Sounds like those Black Panthers who kicked out the GOP observers and stood guard at the polling stations were not just trying to intimidate voters! They were hiding something!]

Voter Fraud Watch: Two Election Judges Replaced After Illegal Activity in Ohio - Fox News Insider

http://foxnewsins ider.com/2012/11/07/voter-fraud-watch-two-election-ju dges-replaced-after-illegal-activity-in-ohio/

Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog /2012/11/05/Why-the-Polls-are-Wrong- Poll-Shows-Electorate-is-R-6

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus

http:// www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fraud-alert-one-out-of-five -registered-ohio-voters-is-bogus/#.UJrnpl7Imc0.facebook

via @BeachCity55 on Twitter: Senior parents in Florida told not to put their ballots through their reader but in a box. Senior votes in FL not counted?

Data Points To A Powerful Romney Campaign – And Yet…He Lost?
http://goo.gl/GB723

“You have to vote for Dems” NYC poll worker tells GOP Senate candidate #IllegalElectioneering
http://goo.gl/nn5CN

At least 70,000 report voting problems, mostly in swing states
http://goo.gl/jjCSX

Plane crash destroys Afghanistan US military ballots, most of which are for Mitt Romney
ht tp://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations-where-g op-i nspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/

[Sounds like those Black Panthers who kicked out the GOP observers and stood guard at the polling stations were not just trying to intimidate voters! They were hiding something!]

Voter Fraud Watch: Two Election Judges Replaced After Illegal Activity in Ohio - Fox News Insider

http://foxnewsins ider.com/2012/11/07/voter-fraud-watch-two-election-ju dges-replaced-after-illegal-activity-in-ohio/

Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog /2012/11/05/Why-the-Polls-are-Wrong- Poll-Shows-Electorate-is-R-6

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus

http:// www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fraud-alert-one-out-of-five -registered-ohio-voters-is-bogus/#.UJrnpl7Imc0.facebook

via @BeachCity55 on Twitter: Senior parents in Florida told not to put their ballots through their reader but in a box. Senior votes in FL not counted?

Data Points To A Powerful Romney Campaign – And Yet…He Lost?
http://goo.gl/GB723

“You have to vote for Dems” NYC poll worker tells GOP Senate candidate #IllegalElectioneering
http://goo.gl/nn5CN

At least 70,000 report voting problems, mostly in swing states
http://goo.gl/jjCSX

Plane crash destroys Afghanistan US military ballots, most of which are for Mitt Romney
[url]http://goo.gl/kNLFz[/a]

Obama’s pattern of disenfranchisement of the military vote
[url]http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=48[/a]

Another Stolen Election? Election data HIGHLY suspicious AND the George Soros’ “Secretary of State Project” http://goo.gl/y1ybR

Yes, this is the same George Soros who owns part of the company in Spain Obama outsourced parts of the election to and who has been banned from Hungary because he tampered with elections there.

We will continue to add updates! Please check back often!

THURSDAY UPDATES:

From Lynn Victory on Facebook:

“Thanks for what you are doing. My son is friends with a guy in the Romney campaign who has actually been on since 2008. He is not high up, but said that the O campaign bought high tech equipment to target county by county where the votes were needed in battle-ground states, so that they could “bus in the needed votes”. The guy would not say fraud, but that is fraud.”

Also this referral from Lynn:

White House Insider on Obama Steal the Votes Strategy (Just Before the Election)

“But…these Obama boys…they took it to a whole other level. Votes, donations…deals…it’s a lot more Putin than it is Clinton. Pay to play…Big Labor…this country never seen it at this level.”

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/01/white-house-insider-governor- romney-is-gonna-win-this-thing/

Voter fraud witnessed in Wisconsin by one of Mitt’s ORCA observers:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=387389068009997&set=a.3625 61847159386.84375.361783440570560&type=1&theater

via Lori Patriot on Facebook:

52 Democrats arrested for VOTER FRAUD so far

http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=92957

VIDEO: Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

In 2008, John McCain Ignored Vote Fraud to Avoid Civil Unrest
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302

[See what that got us?]

Michael Savage: How Obama fixed 2012 election
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc “>http://goo.gl/kNLFz[/a]

Obama’s pattern of disenfranchisement of the military vote
[url]http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=48”]http://goo.gl/kNLFz&; quot;]http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416[.url]

Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…

ht tp://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations-where-g op-i nspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/

[Sounds like those Black Panthers who kicked out the GOP observers and stood guard at the polling stations were not just trying to intimidate voters! They were hiding something!]

Voter Fraud Watch: Two Election Judges Replaced After Illegal Activity in Ohio - Fox News Insider

http://foxnewsins ider.com/2012/11/07/voter-fraud-watch-two-election-ju dges-replaced-after-illegal-activity-in-ohio/

Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog /2012/11/05/Why-the-Polls-are-Wrong- Poll-Shows-Electorate-is-R-6

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus

http:// www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fraud-alert-one-out-of-five -registered-ohio-voters-is-bogus/#.UJrnpl7Imc0.facebook

via @BeachCity55 on Twitter: Senior parents in Florida told not to put their ballots through their reader but in a box. Senior votes in FL not counted?

Data Points To A Powerful Romney Campaign – And Yet…He Lost?
http://goo.gl/GB723

“You have to vote for Dems” NYC poll worker tells GOP Senate candidate #IllegalElectioneering
http://goo.gl/nn5CN

At least 70,000 report voting problems, mostly in swing states
http://goo.gl/jjCSX

Plane crash destroys Afghanistan US military ballots, most of which are for Mitt Romney
[url]http://goo.gl/kNLFz[/a]

Obama’s pattern of disenfranchisement of the military vote
[url]http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=48[/a]

Another Stolen Election? Election data HIGHLY suspicious AND the George Soros’ “Secretary of State Project” http://goo.gl/y1ybR

Yes, this is the same George Soros who owns part of the company in Spain Obama outsourced parts of the election to and who has been banned from Hungary because he tampered with elections there.

We will continue to add updates! Please check back often!

THURSDAY UPDATES:

From Lynn Victory on Facebook:

“Thanks for what you are doing. My son is friends with a guy in the Romney campaign who has actually been on since 2008. He is not high up, but said that the O campaign bought high tech equipment to target county by county where the votes were needed in battle-ground states, so that they could “bus in the needed votes”. The guy would not say fraud, but that is fraud.”

Also this referral from Lynn:

White House Insider on Obama Steal the Votes Strategy (Just Before the Election)

“But…these Obama boys…they took it to a whole other level. Votes, donations…deals…it’s a lot more Putin than it is Clinton. Pay to play…Big Labor…this country never seen it at this level.”

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11 /01/white-house-insider-governor- romney-is-gonna-win-this-thing/

Voter fraud witnessed in Wisconsin by one of Mitt’s ORCA observers:

https://www. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=387389068009997&set=a.3625 61847159386.84375.361783440570560&type=1&theater

via Lori Patriot on Facebook:

52 Democrats arrested for VOTER FRAUD so far

http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=9 2957

VIDEO: Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpc t0

In 2008, John McCain Ignored Vote Fraud to Avoid Civil Unrest
http://w ww.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302

[See what that got us?]

Michael Savage: How Obama fixed 2012 election
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaO O2etc

Massive voter fraud discovered in April
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

Is Voter Fraud Being Committed in Ohio? (Early Voting)
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/26/is-voter-fraud-being-committed-i n-ohio/

FRIDAY UPDATES:

Pundit Press: What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html

Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket
https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138

“Did this Dirty Trick Get Obama Re-Elected?”
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-this-dirty-trick-get-obama-elected/

Vote Fraud Expert: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States
http://www.prisonplanet.com/vote-fraud-expert-romney-votes-not-counted -in-key-states.html

“Could we fix an election? Sure, they would never know it.”
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/09/could-we-fix-an-election-sure-they-would-never-know-it/

Thousands of votes from our military troops uncounted or missing
http://www.examiner.com/article/cast-aside-thousands-of-votes-from-our -military-troops-uncounted-or-missing

Defense Department can’t put soldiers, ballots together
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/defense-department-cant-put-soldiers-ballot s-together/

Voter fraud in Pennsylvania - Black Panthers return, GOP inspectors thrown out
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/conscience-conserv ative/2012/nov/6/voter-fraud-pennsylvania-black-panthers-return-gop/

Ohio fraudulent voter registration cards
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ohio-voter-registration-fraud/2012/11 /03/id/462674

Ohio Residents Told They Already Voted When They Showed Up At the Polls Tuesday
http://godfatherpolitics.com/7942/ohio-residents-told-they-already-voted-when-they-showed-up-at-the-polls-tuesday/#.UJuBsqfTvHc.facebook

Poll Worker Puts Glendale Precinct’s Ballots on Car, Drives Away
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Ballots-Found-in-Glendale-Stre et-177720291.html

Referenced above, but with more information:

Two Ohio Election Judges Removed for Allowing Unregistered Voters to Cast Ballots
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/06/Report-Two-Election -Judges-Removed-By-Hamilton-County-Ohio-for-Allowing-Unregistered-Vote rs-to-Cast-Ballots

Democrat Admits He’s Voted FOUR Times Already
http://nation.foxnews.com/voter-fraud/2012/11/05/democrat-admits-hes-voted-four-times-already

Boston reports 129% voter turnout, 79% for Obama; 74% for Elizabeth Warren
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/35319922188/voter-fraud-boston-report s-129-voter-turnout-79-for

This one could be just a calibration issue, but not necessarily based on the programer’s testimony in the next link:

Voting machine swaps Romney for Obama
http://www.marionstar.com/article/20121031/NEWS03/310310009

Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY

VIDEO: Possible voter fraud in Pennsylvania — or just voting machine malfunction?
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/uwelectioneye/2012/11/06/possible-voter- fraud-in-pennsylvania/

Voter Fraud Complaint Filed against Florida Democrats
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/voter-fraud-Florida-Democrats/2012/10/ 05/id/458894

“Ballot Re-writers” Update from Allen Westhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=299196730187117&set=a.198312883608836.34844.198021666971291&type=1&theater

“Half the Democratic ground game is voter turnout. The other half is voter fraud.”

Voter Fraud: Obama Won 108% of Registered Voters in Wood County, Ohio
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/voter-fraud-obama-won-%108-of -registered-voters-in-ohio-county/

Video: Diebold Whistleblower Speaks Out on Voter Fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k_rMpQKqZhM

BREAKING: St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/breaking-st-lucie-county-florida-had-1411 -turnout-obama-won-county

Between St. Lucie and Broward Counties, we have a pretty good idea what happened in Florida. Normal voting is what, 50% turnout? It doesn’t take many counties like this to affect an entire state by multiple percentage points.

All of these numbers between 99% (Pennsylvania) and 141.1% (Florida) turnout in dozens of counties in swing states makes me think Team Obama was panicking a lot just before the election, with Mitt up by 7% in certain early voting polls. They overcompensated so much the fraud is impossible to hide. I think they know it, which may be one reason Axelrod is stepping down. (Sound familiar Petraeus and Benghazi?)

As I told someone earlier today, this is who Obama is. This is who Chicago (the machine) is. Do we really want this to be who America is? Is this how we will define our elections from 2008 on? As Mitt says, “America can do better.” We must do better. We can’t let the message be out there that America will let this fraud go.

Want to do something about all of this? Tiffany Banks and Darin Southam forwarded me a list of people you can contact who are in the November 9, 2012 3:12 PM comment below.

Did you know voters can request a recount in certain states? (Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Wisconsin!) Take a look at the comment by @RightonMainSt dated November 9, 2012 11:45 PM below for instructions! Mitt will have to ask in Colorado himself. (Yes, you Mitt!)

It has also been suggested that we ask Republican Secretaries of State NOT to certify the election until all questions about voter fraud are abated. Some people think this may provoke a crisis, but it can’t be worse than the one we are looking at for the next four years and the impact on generations to come! America NEEDS Mitt, and Mitt won fair and square. This was not a ballot stuffing competition but an election. Let’s make sure it’s counted that way!


53 posted on 11/10/2012 2:20:53 PM PST by patriot08
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To: TigersEye
Wouldn't you have to run a conservative to prove that?

^^ That right there is the winner. There has been all of this talk that Romney didn't win because he didn't pander to brown people, people with vaginas and so on, and IMO that is pure crap.

The numbers say both candidates sucked. The votes McLame got in '08 would have trounced the marxist this year, he won only because his machine failed a bit less miserably at its GOTV effort.

Reagan would have energized his voters and he would have won, even against Santa Claus.

Question will remain forever unanswered, was Reagan running in our primaries? I have to say if he was, it would have been Gingrich. He had a load of baggage and most of it twisted and undeserved, but we are now in the realm of coulda shoulda wouldas and we shoulda.

54 posted on 11/10/2012 3:07:04 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

I think Reagan understood that conservative principles are a foundation to stand and build on not a club to beat up your opponents with. His belief in and commitment to those principles made it easy for him to promote them. He didn’t have to convince the right that he was genuinely conservative and he was able to elucidate conservatism and make it attractive to moderates and leftists without first apologizing and sounding defensive about it.


55 posted on 11/10/2012 3:29:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: A'elian' nation
The Marxist will leave office disgraced and discredited just like Clinton. His will be a failed presidency, because he cannot lead much less govern.

Hm. That's what we all thought this time.

56 posted on 11/10/2012 3:40:26 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: BfloGuy

I know, but he has run out of excuses if the pubs let him have his way with taxes. There are way too many scandals brewing. And the Clinton revenge is coming which will split the media. Not to mention the recession coming back.

Fight him like a dog when it comes to Supreme Court appointments, but otherwise in two years his policies will have failed just like they have already failed.

If the republicans save him like they saved Clinton with welfare reform and taxes, then we truly are the stupid party.

And once the Clinton wing of the democrats gets started it’s going to get better than the Bolsheviks against the Mensheviks.


57 posted on 11/10/2012 3:50:00 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: TigersEye

[[ I no longer believe that conservatism wins every time.

Wouldn’t you have to run a conservative to prove that? ]]

Well, how’d things work out for Allen West?


58 posted on 11/10/2012 4:30:49 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide
BREAKING: Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida

It would appear that conservatism worked for him. Unless you want to hold up the absurd notion that fraud by the opposition signifies a failure of your philosophy.

59 posted on 11/10/2012 4:43:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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