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Have Environmentalists/EPA Triggered Electric Power Outages To 3 Million Americans?
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 07/03/2012 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on 07/03/2012 4:53:42 PM PDT by joeclarke

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To: dirtboy

We deal with idiots that won’t let us clear the brush from up against our houses because a Kangaroo Rat may be perturbed, then act surprised when a wildfire wipes out a few hundred $1 million homes. The EPA is filled with ivory-tower fools.

:^)


61 posted on 07/03/2012 6:44:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Puh-leeze, I have lived through all flavors of heat, including Texas and Oklahoma.

Philly HHH weather (hot, hazy and humid) ranks up on the misery factor with just about anything.

62 posted on 07/03/2012 6:46:31 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Navy Patriot

My power company is shutting down their coal fired plants and putting up wind farms primarily on the east side of the state where the winds are minimal. Meanwhile the greenies are tearing out dams as fast as they can get approval.

We’re headed for a disaster


63 posted on 07/03/2012 6:49:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cyber Liberty

And with that, it’s bed-time in my air-conditioned bliss that undoubtedly is fueled by coal and nuclear power.


64 posted on 07/03/2012 6:49:17 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Please provide us examples, then. With links.

Certainly, but you first.

You posted to Joe Clark: Uh, no.

It was a big honkin' derecho. Look up the term and the news before making such an uniformed claim.

Er, uninformed claim.

without posting links corroborating your position.

Considering Joe Clark posted several links and sources, you will back up your name calling fully and respectfully before I do.

As I said, pound sand.

65 posted on 07/03/2012 6:51:28 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

***Last summer we had a Haboob, which is a crapload of destructive wind, I couldn’t see across my suburban street, and it left dunes of dust in the streets. ***

Sounds like a common sandstorm to me.


66 posted on 07/03/2012 6:51:35 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, me too. Thank goodness for EPA-free technology. I’m afraid I would quite die without AC in Phoenix. It can break your heart to see the mercury at 95 F when you get up in the morning. And our troopers in Iraq have it a lot worse, so I pray for them, with feeling.

Sleep well, my friend.


67 posted on 07/03/2012 6:55:16 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It was a sandstorm...but uncommonly large. I’ve seen a few before, though. I’ve been here since 1980.


68 posted on 07/03/2012 6:57:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Mash Here. Just a little one.
69 posted on 07/03/2012 7:03:28 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: joeclarke

BINGO!


70 posted on 07/03/2012 7:06:50 PM PDT by CT
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To: cripplecreek
Here in California, the EPA has prevented upgrading and expanding to redundancy the high voltage grid, and been particularly hard on nuclear generation.

The PG&E and So Cal Edison have collaborated with the Cal PUC to push a mandatory high percentage of (nonexistent) green energy, while giving excessive bonuses to PG&E upper management.

They fired all the tree trimmers for the money and didn't outsource for two years, so we had storm outages like crazy. Then they cut the electricians that worked with the trimmers, so the trimmers can't work around live high voltage, and may not secure the power themselves.

We have both overhead and buried power. In CA, all power is on easements and citizens cannot interfere with tree maintenance because of that, so PG&E under the PUC can trim all they want, if they will pay for it.

71 posted on 07/03/2012 7:15:54 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

This afternoon on the History channel they were showing some pictures of a dust storm rolling in over NY city during the dust bowl years.


72 posted on 07/03/2012 7:17:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: aruanan

It’s not a necessity of life.


73 posted on 07/03/2012 7:21:52 PM PDT by Figment
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To: cripplecreek

I’m still enjoying your picture of the country drive you posted on another thread. Those were my favorite subjects, back when I took pictures, not far from where you are.


74 posted on 07/03/2012 7:21:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Figment

Come live where I do, and turn off the A/C. Then let’s see what necessary.


75 posted on 07/03/2012 7:23:40 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: dirtboy

So how did people live to 95 back then?


76 posted on 07/03/2012 7:26:20 PM PDT by Figment
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To: dirtboy

***It was a big honkin’ derecho.***

Just say THUNDERSTORM. It’s easier to remember.

Haboob? just say sandstorm.

Remember when NBC tried to coin a new word...”Thorms” and it went over like a lead balloon.


77 posted on 07/03/2012 7:27:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Navy Patriot
The PG&E and So Cal Edison have collaborated with the Cal PUC to push a mandatory high percentage of (nonexistent) green energy, while giving excessive bonuses to PG&E upper management.

Yep that crap is going on everywhere. Decrease supply, pick up tax credits and breaks for going green while charging more.
78 posted on 07/03/2012 7:27:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dirtboy

***BTW, derecho is a meterological term.***

I am 66 years old and have monitored weather conditions since I was ten years old and NEVER heard that word till this week.

I still remember an old NANCY cartoon from the 1960s in which she is listening to a TV weatherman talk about the weather in the most technical terms but never mentioned drechos.
Finally she gives up and asks an old man what his bunions say.


79 posted on 07/03/2012 7:33:40 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Figment

***Why do they die from a lack of it now?***

Actually quite a few people died of heat back then. It was just called apoplexy.

Just like lots of people back then died of heart attacks but it was called “Indigestion”.


80 posted on 07/03/2012 7:37:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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