Tom Hoefling: "I will shut down every abortion facility in the country"

Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | June 11, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

[ansel12]

Ross Perot was pro-abortion, his wife and daughter are award winning Planned Parenthood fund raisers, and Perot said that he would go door to door in Dallas to confiscate guns.

Perot was no conservative.

[FreeAtlanta]

I will consider writing him in here in Georgia as a protest vote, but if I was in a battle ground state, there is no way I would vote for anyone but Romney.

Anything else in those states would be a vote for the destroyer Obama.

[Manic_Episode]

Anyone who supports a true liberal can no longer call themself a conservative.

[driftdiver]

“Anyone who supports a true liberal can no longer call themself a conservative.”

Anyone who helps Obama get reelected is a traitor.

[kidd]

Will you be on the ballot in Connecticut?

In deep blue Connecticut, a Romney vote would have no meaning, so I intend to vote for a conservative third party.

I’ve enjoyed your posts for years

[allmendream]

Under what specific Presidential power would these facilities be shut down?

Executive orders outlining what the President determines SHOULD BE the “Supreme Law of the Land” is not a Constitutionally defined power.

Do you believe in an Imperial Executive branch?

Apparently you do.

[EternalVigilance]

Are women's wombs to be enslaved to the greater glory of the Almighty State?

I've never seen such a load of Planned Parenthood-inspired nonsense on FreeRepublic.com before.

The explicit requirement of the Fourteenth Amendment is that the unborn be given due process of law before they can be killed, not that they must never be killed under any circumstances.

Due process of law in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment context means a fair trial on a capital offense. Can you explain to me how an unborn child could possibly commit a capital offense?

Abortion is a travesty, but people should not rush to the even greater travesty of a police state in order to put an end to it.

I'm constantly amazed by how many folks can't understand the difference between fighting against tyranny and instigating it.

In the physical sense, there is no greater tyranny that can be enacted on the people than to kill them.

[netmilsmom]

>>I hope you are NOT pro-life if you are going to vote for a guy who was Pro-Choice as early as 2004. <<

I was Pro-Choice once too. Now my family and I are the Yellow balloon people.

>>I hope you are NOT pro-life<<

Sorry to disappoint you.

[trailhkr1]

Anyone who supports a true liberal can no longer call themself a conservative. This country is teetering on the edge of financial collapse..and it still could happen. If that should happen, abortion will be the very least thing on the people's mind.

[Manic_Episode]

Supporting a liberal is what will get Obama reelected. Look in the mirror Sir. You know this is a conservative website but you betray the cause.

[netmilsmom]

>>Perot was no conservative.<<

Perot was fiscal conservative at a time that I was Pro-Choice.
However, the point of the matter is, he was known and still lost.

[EternalVigilance]

A presidential finding is distinct from an executive order. The former spells out the president’s understanding of what his duty requires. The second instructs those under his authority in what they must do to carry out the law.

No, I don’t believe in an imperial presidency. I believe that every officer of government must do the first thing that the founders of this republic said government is for: to equally protect the God-given, unalienable right to life of the individual person.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men...”

[trailhkr1]

Anyone who supports a true liberal can no longer call themself a conservative.

Romney does not hate the country and want to turn it into a commie/socialist police state.

This country is teetering on the edge of financial collapse..and it still could happen. If that should happen, abortion will be the very least thing on the people's mind.

[so_real]

... for defeating Obama - who, in spite of fits and tantrums to the contrary, is far worse for our country than Romney could every be.

Watch for it, FRiend. There is a bigger game in play. Right up until November, Obama will make dramatic leaps leftward. He has already begun this move. You may not understand it or see it yet, but Obama is shifting far left to accomplish three tasks :

• make Romney appear to be "a conservative" by contrast (thereby redefining "conservatism") when in truth Romney is not even as conservative as John McCain
• energize the far left base for a take-back-the-whitehouse appeal in 2016 (because he expects to lose in 2012) when favors will be called in
• and throw the 2012 election to his liberal republican counterpart (to solidify his tenure as president and permit the ink to dry on the socialist advances he's made while in government)

Obama is going to throw this election as best he is able. By November the pundits will be telling us how damaging Obama's shift has been for his re-election bid. Some will call him crazy, others will call him crazy like a fox. Watch for it. When it happens you'll know this is intentional. And if Romney fails to appeal to the base in any significant way, and his successful presidential bid remains improbable, watch for the DNC to decide Obama is just plain crazy and throw another candidate in (Clinton?) to split the vote. They are attempting to sacrifice the queen in order to win the chess game. Don't take the bait. Forget about the queen and focus on your own pieces and positioning this election. Romney is a liberal, a pawn, and a stealth democrat. If Romney wins, conservatism loses.

[driftdiver]

Stop doing drugs and then perhaps people will listen.

[netmilsmom]

>>so what if we end up w/ obama again?<<

[MCSP2008]

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Justice Blackmun, in Roe vs. Wade, admitted that “of course” the child in the womb is protected by the Fourteenth Amendment, if they are a person.

Salve

I am sorry friends, please educate me on biological anatomy of humans, I think I miss some steps here.
“If they are a person”?

I thought at moment of conception life starts, human being is forming and living being, and is already a person, small yes, but growing and is a person and after 9 months and serious amount of pain, a person is brought to world with happiness of husband and wife. Or we are talking about some green aliens doing abductions.

Words like this “IF they are a person?” makes you try ask this person, who were you before you were born? Anima.

Overturning abortion law will required unprecedented American people effort, with full true control of three Chambers of the Government, with abhorrent behavior, media, luck of morality in many people, luck of truth, it is impossible. With Feminists who have rule behind apathetic laws, homosexuals using same tactics, and media promoting, you have three evil stooges just to make sure it will not happen. Forth stooge is Education system.

I have written, I can only pray for you, you are between two serious fire balls hitting you and tough very tough fight is for you to fight. Only you know how to fix it.
It is not easy, and it will not be, once the enemy is pushed to the wall it will do enything to hold to power. Like a raging cat.

Merci.

[driftdiver]

A vote for a third party candidate is no different then jumping off a cliff. It will accomplish nothing except make you feel better until the abrupt stop occurs.

[allmendream]

So your Presidential “finding” would shut down these facilities under WHAT specific power granted to the Presidency?

Do you see that 0bama could shut down the death penalty in any State where it is part of the judicial process under the same illogical ‘the ends justify the means’ proviso that you outline?

Your understanding of the Constitution and the limited and enumerated powers granted under it is obviously very limited.

[netmilsmom]

>>Those folks will accomplish much more to stop abortion than this thread will.<<

Thanks! We hope so.

The Chicago Crusaders did a Swing Dance with their balloons at the Rally for Religious Freedom.

(we may Polka next time!)