Posted on 06/11/2012 5:41:04 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
Allow me. I didn’t identify the source of the tinted, textured images because I didn’t want anyone to associate the name of the classmates’s daughter with a possible not-genuine image.
But now you have, so thanks for that.
I expect the webpage will be removed shortly.
I imagined no such thing, though you may have imagined that I did. Perhaps you are having similar problems distinguishing your imagination from reality?
I put two and two together and make that assumption. Why? Because she claimed to be his mother, listed him in her divorce pleadings, and for her entire life claimed to be his mother. I also freepmailed to you another piece of the puzzle that I don’t care to share on this open forum, so stop trying to goad me.
I wouldn’t try to goad you, you would come down on me like a ton of bricks...LOL! I know you too well.
But think about this. There’s a man sitting in the WH and you don’t know who he is. So why assume you know who the child was that she was granted custody of?
No.
Could be the second semester of her sophomore year (57-58) or the first semester of her junior year (58-59).
I identified Fred's quote as the wire story. The magazine article is a more extensive interview which is also reported in a Harvard daily publication.
No, at this stage I am not really interested in going over research production with you--you are free to believe anything you like.
Timing of his trip to Indonesia is an important fact. In this interview, he says he went at age two which would be 1963 which is coincidentally when Stanley stopped being an Au Pair and started college at U of Hawaii.
So you take Rick Anderson's testimony that there was no baby with Anna on Capital Hill in 1961 and Barry's testimony that he went to Indonesia leaving Stanley in school in Hawaii--Stanley really doesn't look like the mother.
That is why his political advocates would like to eliminate those two facts because together, they are pretty clear testimony that Stanley was not his real mother. It isn't credible to believe that she was his mother under those circumstances.
The initial version of the Seattle/University of Washington story was set out in an article by the husband or ex husband of one of Barry's cousins in October of 08 in which he tells you straight out that the baby was left in Hawaii when the mother appeared in Seattle.
That story was rewritten because taken together with the birth in Hawaii in August story, it wasn't credible to believe Stanley would have done that had she been the real mother. The problem with the early version was further that there was no record of the baby in Hawaii--not with Senior; not with Stanley's family.
Could be either, but likely the former. Could also be from 1957. Need more context — like the yearbook itself.
Could be either, but likely the former. Could also be from fall 1957. Need more context — like the yearbook itself.
And all this goes to show you is that revealing research results on these threads will guarantee that the holes we have uncovered are for-ever concealed. There goes the article written by the husband of the cousin...for example.
The water is filled with sharks here.
There is no Time magazine article. You are confusing something from your imagination with reality.
That is what the reporter says. We don't know exactly what Barry said to the reporter. Or if what he said was true.
when Stanley ... started college at U of Hawaii.
False. Stanley Ann started at U Hawaii in 1960 and then returned in 1963, according to U Hawaii records.
Rick Anderson's testimony that there was no baby with Anna on Capital Hill in 1961
Could you provide a cite to "Rick Anderson's testimony"? (Or is this strictly from your imagination along with the "Time magazine article"?)
Barry's testimony that he went to Indonesia leaving Stanley in school in Hawaii
There is no such testimony. Barry has never provided any testimony that he left Stanley Ann behind in Hawaii when he was Indonesia. He has always maintained they went to Indonesia together.
About the divorce papers. I’ve thought all along, and it was posited on threads, that SAD used a fake divorce to gain custody of the kid to take him to Indonesia.
But it looks as though the mother in the papers may have been the real Anna 0bama, getting custody of the child originally named Barack Hussein 0bama. The actual son of the Kenyan Sr. HMm.
What about the other pic?
The article appeared here first: http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/obama-mystery-theater-his-ever-morphing-face/#more-13007
There is no evidence Stanley was in Honolulu prior to 1963. All you have is a letter from Hawaii and it is false like much of the rest of the material received from corrupt Hawaii officials.
You have seen more that I ought to give you about the interview with Barry which was done when he was in Boston purportedly going to law school--in it he clearly says he went to Indonesia when he was two--that would be 1963. You can find other sources confirming that on Trowbridge's site if she hasn't taken them down.
Facts are Barry went to Indonesia in early 1963--it may be that Stanley took him but she was in fact in school at U of Hawaii in early 63 so she didn't stay long; she delivered him to the Soebarkah's. She didn't see him again until sometime after 1966 according to Lia, the housemaid.
No I am not going to provide you with citations to other sources you are welcome to look or to believe whatever you like. Again, the original record is there was never a child on capital hill at the Toutonghi's boarding house.
Barry has never provided any testimony that he left Stanley Ann behind in Hawaii when he was Indonesia. He has always maintained they went to Indonesia together.
Let's try that one on again. There were events where Barry in fact went to Indonesia with Stanley--probably more than one.
But the proposition here is this. When Barry was at Harvard, he gave an interview reported in several publications and in a wire story in which he says he went to Indonesia at age 2 which would be 1963.
But you also know that Stanley did start college at University of Hawaii at exactly that time in 1963 and attended continuously through 1966. No Barry seen anywhere in Hawaii with Stanley, her mother, or anyone else.
No pictures of Stanley and baby Barry. When Susan Blake saw her in August 1961 in Seattle on her way to New York, reason she didn't know how to change diapers on a two week old baby is because she wasn't the mother.
All that simple.
There is no evidence Stanley was in Honolulu prior to 1963. All you have is a letter from Hawaii and it is false like much of the rest of the material received from corrupt Hawaii officials.
You have seen more that I ought to give you about the interview with Barry which was done when he was in Boston purportedly going to law school--in it he clearly says he went to Indonesia when he was two--that would be 1963. You can find other sources confirming that on Trowbridge's site if she hasn't taken them down.
Facts are Barry went to Indonesia in early 1963--it may be that Stanley took him but she was in fact in school at U of Hawaii in early 63 so she didn't stay long; she delivered him to the Soebarkah's. She didn't see him again until sometime after 1966 according to Lia, the housemaid.
No I am not going to provide you with citations to other sources you are welcome to look or to believe whatever you like. Again, the original record is there was never a child on capital hill at the Toutonghi's boarding house.
Barry has never provided any testimony that he left Stanley Ann behind in Hawaii when he was Indonesia. He has always maintained they went to Indonesia together.
Let's try that one on again. There were events where Barry in fact went to Indonesia with Stanley--probably more than one.
But the proposition here is this. When Barry was at Harvard, he gave an interview reported in several publications and in a wire story in which he says he went to Indonesia at age 2 which would be 1963.
But you also know that Stanley did start college at University of Hawaii at exactly that time in 1963 and attended continuously through 1966. No Barry seen anywhere in Hawaii with Stanley, her mother, or anyone else.
No pictures of Stanley and baby Barry. When Susan Blake saw her in August 1961 in Seattle on her way to New York, reason she didn't know how to change diapers on a two week old baby is because she wasn't the mother.
All that simple.
Well you know that's not the first place it appeared because what is there is a reprint of the Harvard Daily report. It was also reported in an AP wire story; he also got the magazine article on being editor of the Harvard Law Review and I believe that was the first place he told a reporter he went to Indonesia at age two. And although Fred is concerned about seeing this stuff get scrubbed which happens regularly when Barry is trying to hide his real story, this particular item is out there in a number of places.
Thus you get the kind of reaction to the facts you see here from his apologists. They would rather you not say that because it demonstrates that Stanley was not his real mother at all--initially she was just a glorified baby sitter.
Her role developed into something more than that--you can believe that she saw herself as sort of an adoptive mother.
But his true mother and her extended family in the US are at this point, a significant part of the effort that has made him a political figure. These people are being concealed for a reason.
True or not, his political supporters obviously believe that if the true story were known, it would render him an ineffective political leader. That is why they have spent so much money and gone to such lengths to conceal from America who he really is.
And thus, my continued hesitation/objection to posting anything from the combined research of a dedicated group, who have given so much time and effort. Thanks to all of you, you know who you are. And many thanks to the freeper who is storing the results off-site, and keeping it safe.
“There’s a man sitting in the WH and you don’t know who he is.” Yet none of the elected congressional representatives seem to care! I agree, we do not know who this little barry bastard commie now occupying the WH is, but what is touted as his ‘history’ is as fake as a catdog. Stanley Ann had at least two children, but we have no clear proof that little barry bastard commie was one of them because a whole loty of money has been spent to erase any trail to the truth. We get snippets and pieces of a puzzle, but the profile this liar has presented is clearly fake yet there doesn’t seem to be enough to piece together the total picture of this lying democrat affirmative action shuck n’ jivin’ commie.
I doubt that I’ll read his book (Maraniss) but it’s fascinating to see how his subsequent works contradict previous works. I wonder if he corrects himself or somehow explains his errors or mistakes? One would think a thorough researcher would not make errors or mistakes of fact. Either he’s “helping” his friend Obama or he’s just a very bad fact checker. Used to be that journalists would cross check everything and have two or even three independent sources before something became “fact”. The story is all over the Internet in news and magazine articles, stating that Obama’s newlywed parents lived together, raising little Barry in Hawaii, for two years until SAD found out about the other wife and her husband took off for Harvard, leaving “Ann” and their baby behind. But then bloggers find the TRUTH that evaded this thorough researcher Maraniss and four years later he “finds records” that show SAD left for Seattle within weeks of the birth. Which brings me to the conversation you recently had with fantasywriter. It’s interesting that fantasywriter seems to believe that when something’s found in a lot of places on the Web, that makes it true. That’s not “evidence” because one source is copied from place to place to place. This “truth” that Senior and SAD lived together with Barry for two years is everywhere, and yet—it’s not true and it’s not evidence to find multiple places that reported a false “truth”. I’ve seen no independent evidence, for example, that Stanley Ann Dunham graduated from Mercer Island High School in 1960. Proof would be a graduation photo that wasn’t photoshopped. I’ve never seen her in cap and gown. Has anyone?
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