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Don't like the 17th amendment? Blame Theodore Roosevelt
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Posted on 05/28/2012 11:45:53 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

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To: ProgressingAmerica

Our elite Republcrats still being able to elect their own Rebublicrats? What could go wrong?


21 posted on 05/28/2012 2:08:30 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Freedom4US
Wasn’t Teddy a spoiler in the election that gave America Woodrow Wilson, in much the same way Ross Perot gave America the Clintons?

Yes -- the ill-fated Bull Moose Party. Teddy and Richard Nixon are the two biggest Republican disappointments of the twentieth century. They ran as arch-conservatives and governed as liberals.

22 posted on 05/28/2012 2:42:35 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The direct election of Senators destroyed the Senate, and created two Houses.

I am a firm believer that the 17th amendment stuck a dagger in the First Republic.


23 posted on 05/28/2012 3:30:59 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I gotta disagree! Papa & Son Bush will go down as the "Presidents of Missed Opportunity"

They had the chance to restore much of the Founders' vision and they wimped out. Especially G.W. with support in Congress available to him. Shame he lost his veto pen and tried to "make nice" with treasonous Kennedy. Sigh.

24 posted on 05/28/2012 3:33:47 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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Shame he lost his veto pen and tried to "make nice" with treasonous Kennedy. Sigh.

Well, there's certainly an argument to be made there. And while I think of Nixon's creating the EPA, I'm reminded of Bush's Department of Homeland Security, so I can't disagree.

25 posted on 05/28/2012 4:54:36 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: samtheman

Of course Ross Perot did not cost George Bush the election in 1992. Here is a very complete analysis that shows why.

http://www.leinsdorf.com/perot.htm

If it makes you happy to go on believing the myth, go ahead.

Perhaps a better question is, would George H.W. Bush, had he won, been able to advance the cause of Progressivism more than Bill Clinton was able to during his term in office?


26 posted on 05/28/2012 5:02:06 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ProgressingAmerica

When politicians were more accountable, this may have worked. Nowadays I think we generally get a better result if people vote for their senstors.

Put it another way I am not for having unelected, less accountable, senators. Another group of politicians who don’t have to care if what they are doing is whatcmost citizens of the state want.

Think about how responsive democrat senators are to republican constituents. Now think if they will care more, or even less, if they are appointed by the state powers. Tell me anywhere in government where appointed people feel they answer to voters.


27 posted on 05/28/2012 5:26:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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“And while I think of Nixon’s creating the EPA, I’m reminded of Bush’s Department of Homeland Security, so I can’t disagree.”

Funny how the miscreants in the GOP-E forget these little tidbits, huh ?

The battle isn’t -R vs. -D, the battle is Commie Left vs. Patriotic Right. Always has been, always will be.


28 posted on 05/28/2012 5:57:50 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:58:59......)
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