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John Derbyshire: Racial Heretic
Radio Free NJ ^ | April 7, 2012 | Tom from RadioFreeNJ

Posted on 04/07/2012 6:46:31 AM PDT by Motherhood IS a career

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I know this writer isn't popular here lately, but I don't think that takes anything away from this piece.
1 posted on 04/07/2012 6:46:34 AM PDT by Motherhood IS a career
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Wait, didn’t Derbyshire marry outside his race?
I guess just the fact that he’s white makes him racist though </sarcasm>


2 posted on 04/07/2012 6:51:47 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Motherhood IS a career

I COULDN’T get past “radio free new jersey”—what that all about?


3 posted on 04/07/2012 6:52:56 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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BTW, the truth that no one is talking about is that there are three prescribed outcomes to every black male care of the liberal media: athlete, rapper, or drug dealer.

My brother-in-law is works in the car industry so, according to the media, he’s automatically an Uncle Tom.


4 posted on 04/07/2012 6:54:36 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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Do a thought experiment. Transport 10,000 residents of Harlem, picked at random, to a remote island in the Pacific and leave them there, with the means to survive for about a year and allow them to take about 100 pound of personal effects, but they will be isolated from the outside world. Pick another 10,000 from North Dakota and place them on a similar but separate island.

Come back in a generation, 25 years, and note the demographics and economy. On one island, most of the original settlers will have died off, the population will be distributed towards the young, with lots of children, few of whom survive into adulthood. Literacy among the young will be non-existant, healthcare not even rudimentary, religion reduced to superstition, government will be run by one or more competing strongman tryrants.

On the other, population will be stable, schools, a clinic, elections and governance will have been established. At least two religious communities will exist in harmony, Catholics and Protestants. Religion will be smoothly integrated into education with few objections.

Sadly, America is progressing from the second island to the first.


5 posted on 04/07/2012 7:07:14 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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And yet, there is something in the matter of fact tone that leaves your personal radar, finely honed after years of Al Sharpton being treated like a serious thinker, sending up a 'yellow alert'.
Harharhar, this gave me a real smile....at an ungodly hour in the morning.

The Fields Medal, officially known as International Medal for Outstanding Discoveries in Mathematics, is a prize awarded to two, three, or four mathematicians not over 40 years of age at each International Congress of the International Mathematical Union (IMU), a meeting that takes place every four years.
I learned something new this morning.

Question and, I hope, an honest one: Why does John Derbyshire feel that this issue has to be aired yet again? It's interesting but, why? And why now?

6 posted on 04/07/2012 7:07:23 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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Wait, didn’t Derbyshire marry outside his race? I guess just the fact that he’s white makes him racist though

Funny how so many "racists" really only seem to have problems with one race in particular....

7 posted on 04/07/2012 7:09:42 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Motherhood IS a career
THE TALK
8 posted on 04/07/2012 7:12:44 AM PDT by Roccus
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He really isn’t saying anything that Herrnstein and Murray haven’t already said. He’s being provocative by couching it as advice to his children in dealing with black America, in juxaposition to advice blacks give their children in dealing with white America.


9 posted on 04/07/2012 7:19:42 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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That would be an interesting experiment but the there is no such thing as RANDOM chance when picking people.
If you chose 10,000 of each race, randomly, NOT from a state or area, you would get different results. Both Harlem and North Dakota are KNOWN for their cultures.

There was a recent Fox News (business) article, March 27 about the 10 most MISERABLE states: NORTH Dakota was number seven and SOUTH Dakota was number two.
North Dakota got an "F" in eight of the 14 categories, including redistricting, ethics enforcement, lobbying disclosure and political financing. (Snip) Last year the State overwhelmingly voted against a bill to create an ethics commission.

I WON'T show this to a long-time friend FROM North Dakota because she REALLY believes that her home state is perfect and head-shoulders superior in every way to every other state--except winters. Winters drove her to California. She simply wouldn't believe this article and would point to media bias. :o) She IS known for being a TAD STUBBORN.

10 posted on 04/07/2012 7:26:50 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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He really isn’t saying anything that Herrnstein and Murray haven’t already said. He’s being provocative by couching it as advice to his children in dealing with black America, in juxaposition to advice blacks give their children in dealing with white America.

You've hit the nail on the head.

11 posted on 04/07/2012 7:28:41 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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Why does John Derbyshire feel that this issue has to be aired yet again?

It's stated in the very first paragraph of the piece.

John Derbyshire has set off a mini firestorm by responding to an article which details advice that black parents give their kids about coping with "White America", by giving advice to his own kids about coping with black America. And imagine White America's collective shock... he has been denounced for it as being racist. (actually I think it's ... "RACIST!!!")

12 posted on 04/07/2012 7:30:18 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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North Dakota got an "F" in eight of the 14 categories, including redistricting, ethics enforcement, lobbying disclosure and political financing. (Snip) Last year the State overwhelmingly voted against a bill to create an ethics commission.

In other words, the people of North Dakota don't consider those issues to be serious problems but a writer in New York City does.

13 posted on 04/07/2012 7:33:59 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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I read John’s piece when it came out. At the time I wondered if he was aware of what he was getting into. He’s an immigrant and has confessed before that he’s somewhat tone-deaf to the American obsession with race.

But I would like to challenge anyone to read his article and point out any fact that is untrue, or any inference drawn from those facts that is not a logical conclusion.

I note that John does not state that blacks are inferior. He merely describes various characteristics that others then assume add up to inferiority. Primarily with regard to measured intelligence.

This is quite interesting, I think. If liberals insist, as they do, that the difference between measured intelligence between the average white person and the average black person not be mentioned, isn’t because they think it has real world consequences? Aren’t they implicitly agreeing that a person of lower intelligence is inferior to a person of higher intelligence and should therefore be assigned to a lower position by law? That if the lower intelligence of black people was to be irrefutably proven, it would indeed be logical to reinstate Jim Crow, or possibly black slavery?

My point is what this unrecognized opinion of theirs says about their attitude towards all others who are “intellectually inferior.” By logical inference, they are proclaiming themselves to be superior beings, and those of lower measured intelligence to be truly inferior, and deserving of nothing but contempt and hatred.

This attitude has nothing to do with race, other than that they refuse to apply it to people with high melanin skin content. OTOH, they feel perfectly free to apply it to those who are melanin-challenged. Thus the great contempt shown towards bitter-clingers and the people of Walmart. IOW, the discrimination and prejudice towards blacks liberals are afraid will be justified if lower average black intelligence can be irrefutably demonstrated is exactly the prejudice they themselves feel towards those of “lower intelligence,” especially those with white skin. Or, more accurately, towards those they believe to be of lower intelligence.

Personally, I think intelligence, especially of the type liberals adore, which consists largely of verbal virtuosity, is greatly over-rated. All men are created equal, and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights. This is not because they are all equally intelligent or verbally adept. It is because God made them equal.

If that were more widely accepted in people’s hearts, I think we could all be a little more relaxed about the possibility that God distributed certain mental characteristics unevenly between ethnic groups.


14 posted on 04/07/2012 7:41:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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So basically, you are saying you agree with my conclusions, you just don’t like the results?


15 posted on 04/07/2012 7:43:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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To: struggle
Yes, yes he did. That racist pig!
16 posted on 04/07/2012 7:47:45 AM PDT by Motherhood IS a career
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To: Sherman Logan
This attitude has nothing to do with race, other than that they refuse to apply it to people with high melanin skin content.

I should have said they pretend, most especially to themselves, that they don't apply it to dark-complectioned people.

They do, of course, which is why so few white liberals choose to move into black neighborhoods, despite real estate being less expensive, and refuse to send their children to black schools.

All John did in his article is put down on paper what liberals actually believe, as demonstrated by how they live and raise their children. I suspect a lot of the denunciation he will receive from liberals is precisely because he had the temerity to put down in print what they believe in their hearts.

17 posted on 04/07/2012 7:55:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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ha, ha, I’ll take my chances with faulty redistricting over violent crime any day.


18 posted on 04/07/2012 7:58:54 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Sherman Logan

VERY well said!


19 posted on 04/07/2012 8:05:01 AM PDT by Motherhood IS a career
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Well, with the Travon Martin case in the spotlight, we seem to have two popular pieces of advice that parents and teachers are giving to their kids:

“Kill Whitey!”

and on the other side:

“Stay out of the hood!”

Which of these two pieces of advice is the more racist and destructive?

Self destructive, I would add, as well as destructive of others, by encouraging the commission of violent crimes.


20 posted on 04/07/2012 8:16:07 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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