Posted on 03/05/2012 10:38:29 AM PST by Scoutmaster
He is her ticket to the big time celebrity hood- guest appearances as a pundit, plush book deals and televised interviews.
Unless of course she is an unlikable psycho which is very probable
Is Fluke a slut? Might not be to her advantage to drag her one ovary through the mud?
Yes. One-time derogatory comments that were uncalled-for. Not twelve hour insult-a-thons (four days of three hour shows - and no, I don't think he spent the full time on this).
No two events are ever exactly the same. The Left takes turns making vile comments. Is that better?
It's never been done before by anybody on either side of the political spectrum.
Again, no two events are ever exactly the same. Are you saying that Rush's swinishness in this case is worse than anything the Left has done?
And those direct quotes made by leftists weren't accompanied by hours of misleadingly telling us what the conservative said, when the conservative didn't say it, as the actual basis for defamatory comment.
It's true that many posters made incorrect and unfair statements about Flake's testimony. But did Palin say "I can see Russia from my house?" Of course, that's not a quote using gender slurs, but I think if I had the time and energy, I could find a lot of lies of all kinds in such places as Daily KOS.
More subtly, they keep quoting parts of Rush's apology while omitting the best part:
"I acted too much like the leftists who despise me. I descended to their level, using names and exaggerations to describe Sandra Fluke. It's what we have come to know and expect of them, but it's way beneath me. And it's way beneath you. It was wrong, and that's why I've apologized, 'cause I succumbed. I descended to their level. Don't be mad at them or mad at her. Everybody here was being true to their nature except me. I'm the one who had the failing on this, and for that I genuinely apologized for using those words to describe Ms. Fluke."
I agree.
As you noted, we have posters here saying that Rush said was "factual," "appropriate," etc. That is really outrageous, and it contradicts what Rush himself said.
But I do not believe Rush's insults were worse that what the Left has been doing for so long. As evidence, I offer
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” Democrat lawmakers are already urging her to sue Limbaugh for defamation “
Sure, why not? They are what they are.
She’s a whore!!!
Rush was being nice calling her a slut!
No, I'm a non-practicing attorney. This is the point at this I apologize for being a lawyer and encourage you to come up with more creative and damning insults regarding attorneys. And I'll join you and try in match you as we insult attorneys.
Different? Either someone slanders or defames someone or they don’t.
Now, here's where you lost me on at least two levels. First: "Slanders or defames." Slander is a subset of defamation. If you slander someone, then you necessarily defame them. Defamation includes libel, which is written defamation, and slander, which was traditionally limited to spoken defamation, but is now frequently used to include both spoken and written defamation.
But there is no "slanders or defames." There's "slanders and defames."
Now we get to the second level. Compare:
(1) Jon Stewart calls Cathy Conserative a 'slut.' And it's over.
(2) For four days, Jon Steward devotes virtually his entire show to telling you what Cathy Conserative said about her sex life. None of it is true; she never said it. Stewart would know that by simple exercise of fact checking. Jon Stewart tells us that Cathy Conserative talked about having so much sex she couldn't walk. And that based on what Cathy Conserative said, she was probably having sex with three guys a day. And that Ingraham said X, and Y, and Z, and A, and B , and C, and D, and E. And Stewart went on and on about what Cathy Conserative said about her sex life . . . but none of it was true. And Stewart said Cathy Conserative was a slut because of what Ingraham said, and as evidence, Stewart offered a statement he claimed Cathy Conserative made (which she didn't make). And Stewart kept this up for four days, hours at a time, making up things that Cathy Conserative is alleged to have said.
Now both (1) and (2) are out of bounds. I guarantee you we'd be squealing more on FR about (2). It's not true that defamation equals defamation equals defamation. Each false statement is a separate offense. And the longer you go on, and the more you make up statements and attribute them falsely to the other individual rather than just calling names, the worse it gets.
If people don't understand that at this point, I don't think they will.
“She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law. The title of the article . . . is “Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons” and was published in the Journal’s 2011 Annual Review.”
Sorry, the slut is a public figure. She constantly seeks public attention.
So, if I call someone’s previous employer and all they say is “Fluke? She is a slut”, they cannot be sued simply because they didn’t “go on” about it?
Didn’t think so. You are trying to split a hair that doesn’t exist.
Rush: “Everybody here was being true to their nature except me.”
“it contradicts what Rush himself said. “
Not really. Rush was definately speaking between the lines. He was supporting his notion that Fluke is a slut but that he usually is a bigger man than to call her one. He knows liberals are sluts and that their entire being is about “do it if it feels good”. To know Rush is to know this.
You get the stupid vanity of the week award.
Great tagline!
"The Da Vinci Code Part 4: Limbaugh's apology"
His apology was a definite improvement over the original insults. We can think whatever we want about Fluke, but IMO what Rush originally said on the radio was too explicit.
I'm glad you cleared that up. You were making a legal point. At first I though you meant that what Rush did was morally worse than the totality of similar remarks Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Matt Taibbi, Ed Schultz, etc. have made.
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It gets the story off the nightly News.
I see Crystal Ball( MSNBC) and others are calling for libs to continue pressuring advertisers and stations to pull off of Rush.
They are bragging about Rush losing two radio stations, a drop in the bucket compared to Rush's empire. The one that must hurt is losing Carbonite.
Carbonite was run by a well known lefty. Maybe they were a big money maker for Rush but I never thought much of them.
I appreciate you posting your opinion on this and not just repeating what the last 10 posters said. There is a follow the herd mentality with some.
Maybe. but I bought 2 years of Rush-24-7 after Obama won the election and I would download the shows and I found it very annoying each show when Rush would weave Carbonite into his political monolog.
I became a fan in 1992 and this is not the Rush of those days.
You mean, instead of 468 stations, Rush now only has 466....OMG!!
: )
You should have heard Rush’s local show in Sacramento in 1988...........R A W......but funny as hell!
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