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Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill

Posted on 03/03/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

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To: philman_36

So the plaintiffs should not have screwed things up by rejecting the default judgement.

There were only two outcomes the judge could have come to - on the ballot or off the ballot. A default judgement would have taken him off the ballot.


381 posted on 03/08/2012 9:22:54 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Erik Latranyi

bump


382 posted on 03/08/2012 9:28:36 AM PST by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Harlan1196
So the plaintiffs should not have screwed things up by rejecting the default judgement.
How could they know they would receive a default judgement?
Malihi could have ruled any way he chose no matter what the plaintiffs' attorneys had been told in chambers. In chamber conversations have no weight in the court room.
That's further evidenced by the fact that the plaintiffs' attorneys had been told in chambers that each case would be tried separately and they would up being bundled together, just like they were in the latest trial.

Isn't it possible that a default judgement wasn't an automatic "done deal" as expected?
Couldn't Malihi have rendered something other than a default judgement?

383 posted on 03/08/2012 9:43:47 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

When the judge tells the plaintiffs he would render a default judgement and then says the same thing in his written decision, then it is reasonable to assume they would have gotten a default judgement.


384 posted on 03/08/2012 9:48:30 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Blado; LucyT; Red Steel; Brown Deer; Candor7; Las Vegas Ron; onyx

I agree with everything you said. We have seen many 1998-2001 zots in the past few months.

I have said it on here on FR many times and I will say it again, sign up date and longevity mean nothing by themselves. The past posting history tells the tale...usually. a 10 year old member may have been a conservative long ago and like you said, somewhere along the line, they remarried a flaming lib, friends, new family members, whoever changed their mind yet they still have their FR account that is 10+ years old.

An Obot or a good liberal troll is on a mission. To change minds, create doubts and concerns. They have to create a persona to avoid detection. That’s what separates the good mods from the MINO’s on any internet forum. It isn’t always easy to bust a concern troll or Obot, Kerrybot, Clintonbot or whoeverbot, especially if they have baked that name for a few years.

I recall a couple of years ago, a 1998 FRreeper who was busted. It was obvious that she just cringed when a single derogatory word was said about Barry. She used her sign up date as a shield to blast anyone who dared to doubt her. However, a little investigation of her past posts showed that in 2004 when Barry spoke at the DNC convention, she drank the Koolaid. Her past posts busted her when all of her Soetoro fawning posts were exposed.

Diogeneslamp, with all due respect, is wrong and he befriends known trolls which is one of the reasons he is not trusted by so many freepers...you can tell a lot about a man by his friends.

There is one troll on here that knows he is skating on very thin ice. His best friends have been zotted( they were long time freepers)and he is all alone now, detested by many, suspected by most and it’s sort of fun to watch him squirm. He’s afraid to defend his Messiah right now so he just sort of wanders around, not posting much anymore. :P

Sometimes if you suspect someone is a long time troll, go back to their first days of posting on FR. If other Freepers were calling them a troll for the first few months, they probably were but as time went on, their longevity saved them and they became more savvy as to how to ride it out as a troll on FR.


385 posted on 03/08/2012 9:55:22 AM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I must agree. Harlan’s credibility fell through the floor when he tried to have it both ways with the BC.

After reviewing this morning’s exchanges I can only conclude that he is an Obot. Using typical Obot tactics he shifts about without any discernible principle as he defends Obama by whatever rationalization is necessary at that moment. The end being pursued is not the truth, it is acceptance of Obama.

Once an Obot is exposed don’t waste time with them.


386 posted on 03/08/2012 9:55:56 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Harlan1196
When the judge tells the plaintiffs he would render a default judgement and then says the same thing in his written decision, then it is reasonable to assume they would have gotten a default judgement.
Anything can be written after the fact.

Nobody can be as obtuse as you're pretending to be.
To assume something in a court of law is to be shown a fool.

387 posted on 03/08/2012 9:58:10 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
I have already said several times that Obama has no respect for the law.

You have also shown you have no desire for the truth to come out...you manufacture excuses like a rabbit with diarrhea...

388 posted on 03/08/2012 10:01:07 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: mojitojoe; Blado; LucyT; Red Steel; Brown Deer; Candor7; Las Vegas Ron; onyx
And you haven't even broached the subject of retreads.
Plenty of those around as well.
389 posted on 03/08/2012 10:09:26 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Well it’s too late now - perhaps next time.


390 posted on 03/08/2012 10:10:39 AM PST by Harlan1196
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Shoot! ...they would wound up...
391 posted on 03/08/2012 10:14:37 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Sure there are and FR is no different than any other forum. Banned, suspended, zotted, they all usually want to come back. Thank God some of them don’t know how to do it without being detected. Freepers are pretty darn good at spotting retreads. People tend to use a certain posting styles, certain words, certain phrases, and Freepers are darn good at outing retreads, plus JR can out them by their IP’s.


392 posted on 03/08/2012 10:22:41 AM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Harlan1196
Well it’s too late now - perhaps next time.
So are you of the opinion that none of the Georgia cases will move forward to the Supreme Court of that State?
393 posted on 03/08/2012 10:30:34 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196

I see that you are still wasting the taxpayer’s money while billing our country as a government contractor at SAIC.


394 posted on 03/08/2012 10:33:41 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: mojitojoe
People tend to use a certain posting styles, certain words, certain phrases...
Yep. Calling cards, as it were.

...and Freepers are darn good at outing retreads...
Yep. Practice makes perfect.

...plus JR can out them by their IP’s.
Masking IP addresses has gotten rather sophisticated. I wish him luck in that area.

395 posted on 03/08/2012 10:39:31 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

All the case were consolidated and dismissed as a matter of law. The appeals court said that Georgia law and prior precedence does not give the court jurisdiction over the Georgia Democratic party’s selection of candidates for the presidential primary.

The judge also said that even if the laws under which the defendants appealed were applied, because they failed to properly serve Obama in the first place, their appeal would be dismissed.

Looks like Georgia election law is specifically written to severely limit the power of judges to interfere with the political parties. I am sure there is some interesting history there.

Now perhaps once the primary is over and Obama is on the general election ballot they can try again.


396 posted on 03/08/2012 10:40:49 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Brown Deer

Not at work at the moment so don’t worry.


397 posted on 03/08/2012 10:42:24 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: mojitojoe
People tend to use a certain posting styles, certain words, certain phrases...
An aside - Certain words and phrases of others can be used in many ways, even as 'recognition in passing' through their usage.
398 posted on 03/08/2012 10:46:37 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
All the case were consolidated and dismissed as a matter of law.
Is that how you read it?

@Farrar-Welden-Powell-Swensson v Obama, Order Granting Respondent Barack Obama's Motion(s) to Dismiss, Fulton County Superior Court, 3-2-2012

Do you agree with that decision?

I'll wait and see what happens myself instead of trying to predict the future.

399 posted on 03/08/2012 10:50:58 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ray76
I must agree. Harlan’s credibility fell through the floor when he tried to have it both ways with the BC.

After reviewing this morning’s exchanges I can only conclude that he is an Obot. Using typical Obot tactics he shifts about without any discernible principle as he defends Obama by whatever rationalization is necessary at that moment. The end being pursued is not the truth, it is acceptance of Obama.

Once an Obot is exposed don’t waste time with them.

I have mostly stopped paying attention to him.

400 posted on 03/08/2012 11:05:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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