A previous posting on the subject:
Kuelap - The Machu Picchu Of Northern Peru (Chachapoyas - White, blonde haired people)
Posted on 02/11/2012 11:44:55 AM PST by blam
A previous posting on the subject:
Kuelap - The Machu Picchu Of Northern Peru (Chachapoyas - White, blonde haired people)
Legenday? Sequel to I Am Legend?
I invite each of you to speculate as to who are these people. I'll start:
* King Solomon's exiled miners. (They were forgotten there when ancient Israel fell into turmoil)
I would guess they were lost Vikings that made it a little too far south, and never bothered returning.
Have DNA analysis of their origins been able to be done?
LOL. It was this earlier article posted By SunkenCiv that inspired me to post this article.
In the 1500’s, the conquistador Pizarro described the Incan rulers as “corn blond” and “whiter than the people of spain”. Interesting indeed!
So...can Norway demand restitution from Mexico for the slaughter of her people?
Yep.
Verification of the Cloud People’s racial makeup came two years ago, when archaeologists found an underground burial vault inside a cave with five mummies, two intact with skin and hair.
Heck no, are you crazy?
They were white people.
Oops
They were in Peru by the way.
I'm thinking this is "O rel lana" which clearly means (in Welsh or Breton) "From Lana rel" ~ odds are good he was as tall and blue eyed as any other Northern European.
Recall from your French history that much of Brittany was conquered by the Normans back in Viking times.
Of course the Bretons were already pretty much more like the Northern Europeans (Irish, Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Manx, etc.) than Souvrners or North Africans. They used to go down to Spain during the Reconquista and vie for fame and fortune.
I'd be careful with the translations that give you a Heavy Mounted Knight as being anything other than a blue eyed blond (or redhead with green eyes) and shorter than an Indian except for a Mohican or Mohawk back in the 1500s.
Not all Spaniards in that time looked all that Spanish!
That "Lana Rel" part, would be "wool kingdom", "sheep country" ~ maybe even something in Basque, but I don't have a basque translator handy.
Another translation: They are the whitest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen in the Indies, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas' wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple.
That puts a different complexion on the Chachapoyas. For Indians they were light-skinned, but they weren't necessarily so by European standards.
lost tribes of israel?
Oh, and that Spanish was filled with all sorts of unassimilated words ~ from French, Breton, English, Arabic, Berber, Basque ~ and Italian. That was one of the reasons for the establishment of the SpanishAademy ~ to make the language standardized, and to regularize Spanish spelling conventions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chachapoyas_culture#Origin_of_the_Chachapoyas
Contrary to erroneous assertions, no early Spanish accounts describe the Chachapoyas as “blond haired” or “blue eyed”. The oft-quoted Cieza de Leon merely records that they were the “whitest” in coloration he had seen. There is no indication of “racial” connotations in this description - another early Spanish source, Pedro Pizarro, describes all the Indians of Peru as “white”. Hair and eye color are not mentioned. Thus the supposedly “enduring mystery for scholars of the region as to their ultimate origin” is a modern slant based on a misunderstanding of the sources, and seems largely driven by a desire to find a trans-Atlantic origin for the Chachapoyas.
All that seems to be indicated by Cieza de Leon is that the Chachapoyas were among the lightest in skin color, of the Andean natives the Spanish contacted. Inge Schjellerup’s book Incas and Spaniards in the Conquest of the Chachapoyas (1997) refers to anthropological examinations of the physical remains of Chachapoyans. There is no reason from these to conclude that the Chachapoyas had any exotic origins different from other ancient Peruvians. For instance, the teeth show an almost complete absence of Carabelli’s cusp on the upper molars, while shovel-shaped upper incisors are universally present - in both of these the Chachapoyas resemble other Amerindians, and differ from “white” Europeans.
When did they start storing people on the cloud?
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