Posted on 02/09/2012 4:42:17 AM PST by scottfactor
I did follow the case, from inception to court martial to final verdict.... he was very fortunate as to the light sentence he received......now to answer some charges..
1) I never said he was a traitor, those are your words, and attempting to put them into my mouth indicates immaturity and alinsky tactics being put to their full use.
2) I believe the first name called was by... YOU, to me... so if there is a problem, look in the mirror first..
3) I dunno about certain things, but saying that if the nazi’s disobeyed orders, in the same paragraph about our troops, the inplication is clear to me, and most people that do not wear tin foil hats...
4) my reaction is not knee jerk it is based upon this thingie call the UCMJ, ya know, that little document that applied to all people in the military. If you served you should not only know that, but should be intimately familiar with it.
5) AWOL is as AWOL does, and he was AWOL regardless of his reasoning.
There is a balance of power in our nation. Normally that is thought of as the congress, the executive office of the presidency, and the courts, but there are two other protective “balances of power” .
1) The military code of honor and the oath to defend the Constitution. ( I am losing hope with that one, on the very very very highest level, but still have enormous confidence that our brave and honorable troops would and will do what is right and true.)
2) The most catastrophic balance of power is the Second Amendment. I pray to God every day that this will never be necessary.
and one more thing... if he was an enlisted man, his address would be fort levinworth, and he would be making little ones out of big ones....
...at this point I wonder why you miss the point of his courageous stand. But you can just be blind-eyed and follow orders when the time comes and hope for the best. To each his own, guess that’s what makes FR interesting. But I do have a career Marine Military Judge friend who doesn’t agree with your “throw the UCMJ at him” attitude, and I think his years on the bench give me plenty of comfort in supporting Larkin, especially now that he is being railroaded again by political correctness in Kansas.
Questions for the KSBHA: Would they accept someone like Obama for medical licensing if he refused to prove the required documentary evidence?? Would they accept a photoshopped jpg or a layered PDF in lieu of required documentation??
Sorry, but this is a nonsense emotional fallacy. Obama put on a dog and pony show for Donald Trump. It wouldn’t have been that hard to pony up when Lakin asked questions early on about Obama’s lack of credentials. Obama refused to provide any legal evidence in Georgia, therefore vindicating Lakin’s suspicions. This all falls on the Kenyan coward.
You couldn't be more clueless.
Awww, isn't this cute. Drew is acting out. It's time to stop carrying water for the Kenyan coward.
... I’ve discussed Larkin at length with him and Haditha as well, since he is a buddy of the lead Judge in the recent case at Pentleton...
Not carrying water for anyone.
Lakin used birtherism as a strategy to weasel out of an upcoming deployment. Why did he not have any problems following orders while INCONUS? It wasn't until it was time to head out to Afghanistan that Lakin suddenly decided he needed to see the President's birth certificate.
Anyhow, it's good to remember that in the end, Lakin repudiated this birther nonsense as he pled guilty and begged the court for leniency. I'm sure if you ask him today, he'd tell you that listening to birthers was the greatest mistake he ever made.
Really?
You're really advocating that the 'Nuremberg Defense' is acceptable?
Sorry, but this statement is the epitome of cluelessness.
Why did he not have any problems following orders while INCONUS? It wasn't until it was time to head out to Afghanistan that Lakin suddenly decided he needed to see the President's birth certificate.
Lakin had tried to get answeres to his questions well before the deployment orders. Disobeying deployment was a last resort, plus, the Afghanistan orders were more directly tied through the chain of command to the commander in chief. Disobeying routine orders had a less tangible connection.
Anyhow, it's good to remember that in the end, Lakin repudiated this birther nonsense as he pled guilty and begged the court for leniency. I'm sure if you ask him today, he'd tell you that listening to birthers was the greatest mistake he ever made.
What part of "Obama vindicated Lakin's suspicions by refusing to provide legal evidence of his eligiblity in court" do you NOT understand?? If English isn't your first language, you need someone else to help you post.
What part of "Lakin pled guilty and begged the court for leniency" do YOU not understand?
I understand it just fine. This was the legal advice given to him after the judge made it clear she had her mind made up already and would not allow Lakin his constitutional right of defending himself. It's time to quit making excuses for the Kenyan coward.
are you all saying that anytime a soldier asks to see the commander in chief’s credentials, that the cic has to not only provide them, but show up at a trial to testify???
you all are truly clueless, comparing our soldiers to nazi’s, stating that disobeying orders is OK because their commanders refuse to provide proof they are indeed commanders? I have had some disagreements here in FR, but I have never dealt with a bunch of tin foil hat wearing clueless individuals like I have on this thread.... so here it is one last time...
1) larkin signed a contract.
2) when ordered to deploy, he refused.
3) he was tried, convicted and sentenced.
4) he is the now a dishonorably discharged cowardly deserter. These are the facts. Spin it however you want.
Lakin was the case that got me interested in birtherism. I was very critical of his position, and still am.
However, I see no reason for barring him from working as a doctor due to his weird political beliefs. For me, it boils down to:
1 - Do they ban doctors who do abortions? No.
2 - Do they ban doctors who vote for the Green Party, or drive around with Obama bumperstickers? No.
So how do they justify banning Lakin?
your points are valid, and you argument well thought out and presented.... I would have to assume it is due to his dishonorable discharge, however I do not know. In regards to this matter, no matter how I feel about his military record, he was sentenced and has served his sentence. I see no reason why he could and should not be licensed ( if he meets the criteria of the state )
Would this be a problem for a president who is legitimate??
you all are truly clueless, comparing our soldiers to nazi’s, stating that disobeying orders is OK because their commanders refuse to provide proof they are indeed commanders?
Wow, the nazi comparison is yours, not mine. The soldiers, or at least the officers, have a sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution. Obama's lack of natural-born citizenship is a breach of the Constitution. His lack of eligibility is a breach of chain of command. The ENTIRE U.S. Military has an obligation to disobey this man's orders and to do what they can to get his illegitimate ass out of the White House. Period.
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