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Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research
Vortex-L ^ | Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:46:07 -0800 | Jed Rothwell

Posted on 12/21/2011 4:56:03 AM PST by Kevmo

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To: Moonman62

This will be my standard post to moonboy that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed like my prior innocuous citation then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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41 posted on 12/22/2011 8:09:11 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Moonman62

This will be my standard post to moonboy that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed like my prior innocuous citation then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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42 posted on 12/22/2011 8:10:48 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Moonman62

This will be my standard post to moonboy that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed like my prior innocuous citation then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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43 posted on 12/22/2011 8:11:32 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Lx

Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Lx.

This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Maybe you should sign up for a few more years of therapy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2813439/posts?page=91#91

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=165#165

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• Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat
Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:55:59 PM • 164 of 169
Lx to Kevmo
I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now.
It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding.
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44 posted on 12/22/2011 8:13:33 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
My standard response to Kevmo’s continual ducking of debate.

Poor Kevmo, the Rhode Island Red of Freerepublic. Here's his latest photo:

I think I see your problem. You take this literally, "Lx to Kevmo I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now. It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding."

Now, I meant the part about Kevmo needing therapy but if he thinks what I supposedly wrote about myself is serious, it's no wonder he believes in Rossi.

Kevmo, do I sound nicer, more sympathetic and understanding? Did you know I have a cold fusion device?

So Kevmo, when you look in the mirror, or do you avoid them, do you weep when you see the image above looking back at you?

Really Kevmo, you think you get to make all the B.S posts you want but are too cowardly to respond. Keeping up with your present ignore trajectory, you'll be speaking to yourself and only yourself in 2.01 months. And you know your parents told you how it could cause blindness when they caught you.

Exactly why do you continue to avoid debate?

I bet your hero Jed Rothwell doesn't duck debate.

45 posted on 12/22/2011 9:29:32 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Kevmo
Pons-Fleishmann effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times.


That is great news! Now, let's look at the source for that claim:


Let's see, it appears to come from:
Frontiers of Physics in China


Wait, I found a source from the incredibly shy, Jed Rothwell:
September 22, 2009 2:16 PM
Jed Rothwell said...

You wrote:

"Am I an expert on this? No."

Then I suggest you read original, peer-reviewed sources written by experts.

". . . but F&P have simply not been replicated, despite numerous attempts."

That is incorrect. The effect has been replicated at well over 200 major laboratories (E. Storms, Los Alamos), in roughly 14,700 experimental runs (J. He, Chines Ac. of Sciences). Most replications that I have observed or read about were successful.


Hmmm, it seems to me that the only sources I could find were from our own Kevmo's endless spamming and the painfully shy Jed-thro Rothwell.

I would like to see multiple sources verifying this number since it's bandied about in every thread. Are the writers trying to reach critical mass so that when people question the number, they can answer," It's settled science". Yeah, like Global Warming.


I would like to see a couple of different, reliable sites confirming this number, until then, it's mere propaganda. Am I supposed to believe the P&F team who were seared, shunned and then declared Persona non grata would sit around knowing the method they found has been confirmed so they can get their credibility back or is this more hucksterism on behalf of the cold fusion true believers?
Do I think cold fusion or LENR is possible? I'm not qualified to say but if they are getting anomalous unexplainable results, then they'd be foolish to stop before they at least figure out the mechanism. If true, it will, not maybe, change the world.

While I might not be qualified on the nuclear physics, I am more than qualified to comment on their test procedures which would have had my physics teachers laugh in my face in front of the whole class. I know some of the slower folks are trying to make a joke about that, no, I was never laughed at in class. Being the first one done on every lab and every test tends to gain respect.


Shut all of us up and produce a peer reviewed journal that verifies the claim. I don't even care if it's 100 instead of 14,700. That would at least imply that there is some there, there which would justify funding for those labs.

Hell, if you want to find out if spanking leads to a homosexual kid, I bet the researchers would get wheelbarrows of money thrown at them and what exactly would the practical result of that type of research be anyway???


Confirm it or stop quoting it.
46 posted on 12/23/2011 2:14:54 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Lx.

This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Maybe you should sign up for a few more years of therapy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2813439/posts?page=91#91

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=165#165

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=164#164

• Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat
Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:55:59 PM • 164 of 169
Lx to Kevmo
I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now.
It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding.
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47 posted on 12/23/2011 3:43:07 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
What is the matter Kevmo, you don't have a real source for those 14,700 replications of the LENR effect? Is your house of cards collapsing? I'd like to see those replications, how they did it, what materials they used, did they use the P&F setup or something new but I guess Kevmo, true to his colors can't provide a valid source.

My standard response to Kevmo’s continual ducking of debate.

Poor Kevmo, the Rhode Island Red of Freerepublic. Here's his latest photo:

I think I see your problem. You take this literally, "Lx to Kevmo I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now. It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding."

Now, I meant the part about Kevmo needing therapy but if he thinks what I supposedly wrote about myself is serious, it's no wonder he believes in Rossi.

Kevmo, do I sound nicer, more sympathetic and understanding? Did you know I have a cold fusion device?

So Kevmo, when you look in the mirror, or do you avoid them, do you weep when you see the image above looking back at you?

Really Kevmo, you think you get to make all the B.S posts you want but are too cowardly to respond. Keeping up with your present ignore trajectory, you'll be speaking to yourself and only yourself in 1.99 months. And you know what your parents told you about how it could cause blindness when they caught you numerous times.

Exactly why do you continue to avoid debate? I would expect you would take every advantage to state your case for LENR. I guess your belief is a kilometer wide and millimeter deep.

I bet your hero Jed Rothwell doesn't duck debate.

P.S. Are you corn fed and free range?

48 posted on 12/23/2011 7:28:24 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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