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THE COMING WAVE (An Interview With Mother Abigail)
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| James Oscar
Posted on 12/14/2011 4:59:02 AM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar
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posted on
02/04/2012 11:44:40 AM PST
by
OwenKellogg
(Gingrich / Robinson 2012!)
To: James Oscar
Thanks for creating the ping list. BTTT.
242
posted on
02/04/2012 12:37:49 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
To: little jeremiah
Great information,
I will try the other forum and you are on the brand new “Watch Egypt” ping list.
To: James Oscar
Would also like to join your ping list
244
posted on
02/04/2012 1:29:16 PM PST
by
jacquej
To: jacquej
You are on it. This is fun
To: James Oscar
Thank you, James Oscar.
I only pray I can convince my children (and my grandchildren) to flee in time.
246
posted on
02/04/2012 5:53:30 PM PST
by
jacquej
To: James Oscar
Thank you and please keep me on your list if you continue to ping.
247
posted on
02/05/2012 3:22:58 PM PST
by
potlatch
(*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
To: James Oscar; All
To: James Oscar
Thank you so much for this information. I have been following it for a good while.
Please add me to your ping list if possible.
249
posted on
02/13/2012 8:44:06 PM PST
by
Duchess47
("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
To: Duchess47
I have added you to the Ping List this morning.
To: PA Engineer; Domestic Church; potlatch; LibertyRocks; OwenKellogg; onyx; F15Eagle; CJ Wolf; caww; ..
MA: Well, it is not so black and white as you make it. What I believe is that it will change. It will go airborne and it will become quick and deadly. When it makes that magic mutation that gives it the ability to ride the water droplets expelled in a cough or sneeze to the lungs of a healthy person - not only will it have found the mechanism for rapid transmission but the mutation will also set in motion a very different chain of events from what we know now.
When the new HIV virus arrives in the lungs of a new patient there is the great potential for a positive feedback loop to be established between the new invader and the host's immune system. At the arrival of the new pathogen, cytokine will signal the body to send T Cells to fight the infection. The T cells, upon being stimulated by the cytokine will begin to produce even more cytokine.
This is the normal reaction and happens all the time. But we have a real problem don't we?
Q: HIV lives on T cells?
MA: Yes of course. So now we have the feedback loop. T cells rushing to the lungs where they are infected with new virus and more and more cytokine being produced by the body. The result is called a "Cytokine Storm". The lungs begin to fill with fluids and immune cells. The result is sudden death. When this event takes place in the lungs, it can kill a healthy young person in less than 48 hours. We learned this lesson in the 1918 flu outbreak.
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February 15, 2012
I was emailed the following information listed below from Spain. The email explained to me that there was a study released in December of 2011 which explained how the mechanism of this event has now been discovered.
After some really hard concentration (thank you again MA for all the lessons) I understand what they are saying. Here is the bullet points and URLS.
1. HIV has a gene TAT (Tat stands for "Trans-Activator of Transcription)
2. Tat vastly increases the level of transcription of the HIV dsRNA. Before Tat is present, a small number of RNA transcripts will be made, which allow the Tat protein to be produced.
Tat then binds to cellular factors and mediates their phosphorylation, resulting in increased transcription of all HIV genes, providing a positive feedback cycle. This in turn allows HIV to have an explosive response once a threshold amount of Tat is produced, a useful tool for defeating the body's response.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tat_(HIV)
SHORT VERSION - THE HIV GENE "TAT" ARRIVES IN EARLY INFECTION, HIJACKS THE BODY'S CELLS AND ONCE A CRITICAL MASS OF TAT IS PRESENT CREATES AN EXPLOSION OF HIV VIRUS.
3. Three months ago a group of Spanish researchers discovered that:
BACKGROUND: HIV-1 Tat protein has been shown to play multiple roles in the pathogenesis of AIDS; however, there is no information currently available on its effects on adipose tissue alterations. We have studied the effects of Tat on SGBS adipocytes to gain insight on its role on the development of lipodystrophy.
METHODS: SGBS preadipocytes were exposed to Tat during and after differentiation. Acquisition of adipocyte morphology, expression of gene markers of adipogenesis and inflammation, release of adipokines and cytokines to the medium, and glucose uptake were measured. The action of Tat on tumour necrosis factor (TNF)-α-regulated messenger RNA expression was determined in differentiated adipocytes. The capacity of rosiglitazone, resveratrol and parthenolide to influence the action of Tat was also assessed.
RESULTS: Tat treatment reduced the number of SGBS preadipocytes that acquired adipocyte morphology. It also led to repression of adipogenic gene expression and induced the coordinate expression and release of proinflammatory cytokines in human adipose cells. Moreover, combined treatment with Tat and TNF-α produced an additive effect on the repression of adipocyte genes. The observed effects of Tat on gene transcription in adipocytes were due, in part, to TNF-α that was secreted as a consequence of intracellular exposure to Tat.
CONCLUSIONS: Tat impairs adipogenesis in human SGBS preadipocytes and increases the expression and release of proinflammatory cytokines. Positive crosstalk between Tat and TNF-α contributes to the anti-adipogenic and proinflammatory effects. HIV-1 Tat protein may play a role in the adipose tissue alterations that ultimately lead to lipoatrophy and systemic metabolic disturbances observed in HIV-1-infected patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22301094
SHORT VERSION - THE EXPLOSION OF TAT IN EARLY INFECTION HAS A SECONDARY EFFECT. IT CREATES AN ENHANCED RELEASE OF CYTOKINE.
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So........ MA's theory about an HIV infection in the lungs has a clearly defined mechanism to explain the deadly Cytokine Storm reaction she predicts.
This leaves only the last element of her theory yet to happen - HIV develops the ability to survive in water droplets of a cough or sneeze.
I hope she is wrong.
Comment #252 Removed by Moderator
To: F15Eagle
To: James Oscar
Thank you. I also hope she is wrong.
254
posted on
02/15/2012 11:12:19 AM PST
by
Duchess47
("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
To: James Oscar
Thank you for the ping. I am going to send a link to this info to friends who are interested in emerging disesases/pandemics etc. This is a disturbing development.
255
posted on
02/15/2012 12:46:54 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
To: James Oscar; Smokin' Joe; blam; Kartographer; LucyT
Pinging a few names, don’t know if you are on James Oscar’s ping list or not. Interesting devlopment in HIV which Mother Abigail said would happen.
256
posted on
02/15/2012 1:10:26 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
To: James Oscar
257
posted on
02/15/2012 1:37:43 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
To: James Oscar
258
posted on
02/20/2012 6:30:35 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
To: James Oscar
I missed this originally and got it on the bounce. Marking it for later.
259
posted on
02/21/2012 11:24:25 AM PST
by
Free_in_Alabama
(The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
To: James Oscar
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