Posted on 12/12/2011 6:16:37 PM PST by Red Steel
She was unelectable back then; she is doubly unelectable now, after everyone had a chance to see her in charge of an important part of the government. Or, more precisely, not see her in charge. She is a fair-weather sailor.
What a conundrum, being subpoenaed to produce a document that does not exist. What the heck do you do with that?!
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Same thing the banks do with their foreclosures ,,, either ignore it or create a new one in the art department.
Under what name do you write for WND?
Can HI claim “no jurisdiction” when it’s a FEDERAL election of a Pres. candidate? I’m asking here since I’m not a lawyer or judge and don’t understand all the legal ins and outs. It just seems to me that no State can vet a candidate without supporting documents (?). How is that possible???
Hawaii Issued Subpoena For 0bama's 0riginal Birth Certificate and 1961 Microfiche Roll(Court Issued)
MHGinTN wrote:
Looks like the state of Georgia has had a judge issue a summons for the actual Hawaii records which are the supposed source of barry bassturd’s fake BCs, probably on grounds of him trying to get on the ballot in Georgia?
On? Or keeping him off the ballot?
Check out article, also # 13 , # 23 , # 28 , # 29 .
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Thanks, Seizethecarp.
A) Taitz may have showed up to make sure this effort doesn't go anywhere; and
B) HI Law allows the release of vital records to a court of "competent jurisdiction" ... IOW, it doesn't have to be a court that has some sort of formal "jurisdiction over HI officials." Under federal law, if another state requests legal verification of vital records, the issuing state is supposed to provide it. Obama voted for that law, by the way.
Then Taitz has the Hawaiian DoH over the barrel, although, I look for Hawaii to still be dishonestly evasive.
From "§338-18 Disclosure of records.
...(b)...The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:...
"(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;"
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2006/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.HTM
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Suits Against State Officials
Mitigation of the wrongs possible when the State is immune
from suit has been achieved under the doctrine that sovereign immunity, either of the States or of the Federal Government, does not ordinarily prevent a suit against an official to restrain him from commission of a wrong, even though the government is thereby restrained.
I agree. If they simply show the BC is a fraud at this hearing, they have every right to keep him off the ballot.
It is the DNC that needs to show a legit BC. No one else.
Georgia does have authority. They have to file under the interstate agreement of Detainers. On its face it is not enforcible but it is valid.
“he’s not an NBC because that’s what they were taught in school before all the civics texts that stated this were destroyed by the CIA”
They forgot to kill all the students who heard this from their teachers.
In February my friend. Mock us in February when the sheriff produces his findings. Save some ammunition for that day.
The HI DOH has quite a history of NOT following its own laws and rules. There would be no surprise if they fight this subpoena like the last subpoenas that Taitz had served on them. People need to understand that their own law would allow them to comply with the subpoena. There’s not a compelling reason to fight a subpoena. By definition, whoever would issue such a subpoena fits the direct and tangible interest requirement. Maybe that needs to be included ON the subpoena itself.
In your example, we can see other letters in the document have very slight differences, such as the “II” at the end of HAWAII. So we know they copied the two of them together, as one unit.
It's become too obvious that our president has a forged certificate. Let a court and a Judge stake their reputation on the veracity of this document.
I've spent a lot more time deriding the stupidities of Orly Taitz. Of course, Orly isn't the attorney of record here, so the subpoena is not carefully crafted to not be responded to. Subpoenas are generally enforceable across state lines, to the same extent as a subpoena issued in the jurisdiction to which the subpoena is sent. Banks, telephone companies, and the like, respond to out of state subpoenas all the time.
"Jurisdiction" only comes up if the subpoena is flouted. Then you have to go to a local court, and have them issue the subpoena, so that if it is not responded to, the local court has jurisdiction to hold the person the subpoena was issued to in contempt.
The question should come down "could a court in Hawaii issue a valid subpoena for these materials?" If the answer is yes, the subpoena is probably enforceable -- assuming that Orly Taitz keeps here involvement purely nominal.
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