Posted on 12/06/2011 9:24:46 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama
Indeed. I can’t believe that some dork would come here and not take the time to lurk and learn anything about the site before poking anyone, let alone Jim, with a pitchfork.
After today, I am more convinced than ever:
Paultards cannot be reasoned with. It’s pointless to even try.
Sorry, I don’t know who Fred Phelps is. Want to try another analogy I might understand? Or just cut to the chase and tell me you don’t think Paul is Constitutionalist. And if you think that tell me why, please give specific examples where his policies are contrary to the constitution.
I’m honesly looking for information...I don’t know who in the heck to vote for.
They’re as nutty as he is.
BTW there are two, the Homosexual Agenda and the Moral Absolutes lists. Sometimes its a two-fer.
The best place to do research is a website called “On the Issues”. It has quotes and dates.
You've got more patience with these kooks than I have, Jim.
OWK...? How come I don’t remember?
And btw I wave the white flag to bok choy, pre-emptive surrender!
lol I didn’t know it exisited!
You’ve been here since 1998 and don’t know who Fred Phelps is?
Not buying that.
Neither did I, but what the heck ?
LOL!!!!
Some odd folks have multiple names, or the organizations they work for have a bunch of screen names at their disposal.
A two-fer? Were there two zots?
It’s just a straw man argument that is meaningless. Sodomy laws were meant to (and did pretty much) keep what is nasty and disease causing and morally repugnant way in the dark shadows in private. No recruiting, no molesting in public parks, not in the movies, not in sex ed classes, no official months or parades glorifying it, etc.
I’ve written books here on how Paul isn’t truly a Constitutionalist, but you want a sampling of just one example from each of the three legs of Conservatism:
1. Economic- Earmarks are the most unConstitutional form of spending, redistribution w/ out legislation. Paul is one of the leaders of pork barrel spending via earmarks in Congress.
2. Foreign policy- Paul ignores large sections of the US Constitution on his foreign policy stances, specifically in regards to honoring treaties (as to be considered ‘high law of the land per the US Constitution’), yet never offering a bill to defatify mutual defense treaties as the Constitution prescribes. At that, treaties are the only thing the only law outside itself the Constitution requires to be considered high law.
3. Social- I can go on and on this one, but let’s take Abortion. Paul ignores that the Constitution says no one can be deprived of life without due process of law- in other words, the individual right of existence trumps all, yet Paul treats this issue as a 10th Amendment issue as though States’ rights somehow trump individual rights.
....and so on....
Some more examples- Falsely claiming that the only way the Constitution allows the use of the military in our interest is through a formal declaration of war (specifically worded as he expects). This contradicts Article 1, Section 8 which gives three specific ways the military can be used for force (1. Punishing piracy and offenses against the laws of nations, 2. Formal war, & 3. Quelling insurrections). He has been screaming for a decade how the WOT is unConstitutional yet this falls under category 1 in how the military can be used.)
How about his claim that the Constitution says that only ‘gold and silver coin’ are legal tender. This is again false. (albeit a decent practice). The Constitution limits States to only issue gold or silver for payments of debts but Article 1 specifically gives Congress the power to both mint currency and set the value, something they couldn’t do if it were a commodity currency like gold where the value is set by the market.
How about his opposition to the Defense of Marriage act and saying the government has no role in recognizing any marriage? Again, this flies in the face of Article 1 that does give Congress the authority to set standards for ‘weights and measures’. How does that apply? Federalist 42 discusses how ‘measures’ include definitions that apply to contracts and laws (ie what defines the parties in a Marriage Contract).
..want me to keep going? I can do this all night. I’ve been dealing with Fraud Paul for decades.
I bet you didn’t know he was literally kicked out and locked out of the Libertarian Party after an embezzlement scandal in 1988, which is why he came back to the Republican party after denouncing them? Literally locked out. After the FBI raided their offices, the door locks were changed and they found themselves out on the political street. Mr. Constitutionalist(sic) is an old time career politician who has found himself a niche in how he plays the game.
I’ve been keeping my powder dry for a while, but as some here can attest, there is so much dirt on Paul, even from his own pen, if I had time I could fill this place up with articles that his followers try to suppress.
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