Posted on 12/01/2011 10:01:50 AM PST by rxsid
Who are arguing against?? I didn't reject anything about place of birth applies in the United States nor did I say that anything was limited to South Carolina. I did notice that you've completely punted the birthright criterion that Madison included. Thanks for conceding that point. And you're welcome for the reading lesson.
Post 104? I keep searching KWA for something like these two lines and I cant find it :
“A natural born Citizen is born in America” or “KWA is a natural born Citizen”.
Again, be man and paste the line right here:
In such a case I believe that for an adopted child that child’s true/valid birth information would be necessary to be eligible for POTUSA. I also don’t believe that the parents of an adopted child can claim the child is of their ‘natural birth’. In other words such a child should early be vetted as to full citizenship from birth to remove any doubts, something that was not done for Obama.
Now read David Ramsays essay. There were no natural born citizens in America older than 13 years old when Madison wrote this. Mr. Smith was simply a citizen, just as George Washington and Madison himself. This is why the clause was constructed to allow founders such as Washington to be president.
I would think The first natural born citizens were born July 4th, 1776. It seems Madison was correct in calling Mr. Smith a citizen. Just a citizen. Nothing more.
I guess 1811 was the first year that an NBC could be eligible for the presidency. 35 years old, born after 7/4/1776.
I bet there were articles in the newspapers that year.
Election year would be 1812 or 1813, running against Madison. I wonder if NBC was spelled out during that election, in some of the states.
Madison, et al., were "guided in our decision, by the laws and constitution of South-Carolina."
His allegiance was to the U.S and not G.B. due to being born in the colonies and then gained "citizen" of the U.S. due to the Declaration of Independence.
Nothing there at all about "natural born Citizen."
It's like having a president with four citizenships, such as Obama.
You were a good witness, Justice Kagan was impressed. I couldn't rattle you under cross examination.
In this new age of dual citizen at birth presidencies, If the 14th and NBC clause do not limit citizenships at birth, and do not limit or consider citizenships acquired and or relinquished prior to or after majority, is it then acceptable for the president acquire new citizenships while in office as president?
Can we elect a Canadian citizen if he was born in America? He would be NBC qualified, correct?
Can we elect a Canadian citizen, born in America, who naturalized as an American as an Adult?
Why do have this clause if it allows foreign citizens to run for the office?
What is the modern purpose of the NBC clause?
Is it to make sure foreign citizens have an American birth certificate before they run for the office?
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