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Posted on 11/14/2011 11:34:43 PM PST by Kevmo
I used to get Science, loved it. Your free subscription is a sweet deal, congratulations. I came to a point where I was being overwhelmed by paper and with the web... Well, all of the print subscriptions vanished.
I have spent most of my adult life writing rules to manage physical systems much less complicated than 15% of the national economy and cannot for the life of me produce an algorithm for doing just that. Each time I struggle to see some overarching unifying principle, code that, then spend the remaining 99% of the time filling in the exceptions.
And frankly, I can no longer hold it all in my mind, I have to break it up into chunks that work independently to even have a prayer of making anything that works. As I get older, the chunks get smaller.
Judging by the work product of our fine congresscritters I think that their reach has exceeded their grasp.
I'm doing that. You refuse to look at it.
"Don’t present nonsense that doesn’t add up and then spend your energy explaining where the “real” data is. Whining when people are unwilling to go get the data and sort the wheat from the chaff with no hope of ever eating the bread makes you look like an Academic looking for graduate slaves."
Since you refuse to look at the information, how do you know that it is "nonsense that doesn't add up"?? The reports are perfectly straightforward. They even present the data in your preferred unit of "megaJoules" (among several others).
Well, present it here then. You do the work you are asking me to do. You know what is required.
I think they imagine this will free them from the dictat of the authentic rule writers.
All it does is free them to turn out legislative garbage.
I think Wiener went nuts trying to do ObamaKKKare.
(For outsiders ~ NO, it is not true that "any lawyer" can do this work. My experience has been that lawyers simply can't cut it ~ they are best kept away from the working people whose activities are to be described in the "instructions").
You get agreement from me that not “any lawyer” can do the work. I’m not sure that any human or machine can do the work competently. The problem is too complex. Frankly I think government interference in healthcare IS the problem. I’d like to move to a veterinary medicine model. Did you know that you can get a full hip replacement for a German Shepard for 10 grand out the door? Of course, you can’t sue if it doesn’t go right but still...
Any definitive news, bro?
Here is a better link to Putterman’s recent work, including the Scotch Tape stuff. Mash: http://www.physics.ucla.edu/research/putterman/news/index.html
BULLSH*T. Rossi ran the water down the drain. What are you trying to pull here?
I’m sorry, I must have missed something. Did Firestone, Edison, or Tesla fake degrees from diploma mills? No? I THOUGHT NOT.
You don't speak English as a native do you.
That's what I thought.
Westinghouse gave Tesla a big pile of money. How was Tesla robbed?
True on the money. Tesla has been robbed of credit by history. How that happened is not my hobby horse. My steed of choice is rigor and clarity with regard to science in the public sphere. Right now, I'm making my stand here.
Sorry, I dropped the word, “purchase,” while typing rapidly.
Do you understand the question now? Did any of the folks you mentioned purchase fake degrees from diploma mills? NO, THEY DIDN’T, BECAUSE THEY WEREN’T TRYING TO DEFRAUD PEOPLE LIKE ROSSI IS.
Is that English clear enough for you, or should I break it down into simpler terms?
Good choice.
What. You want me to post a link? Okay:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/News.htm
This give summaries of ALL the tests. The section you want to look at is "Rossi 18 Hour Demonstration". If you want the "steam test", it immediately preceeds the 18-hour info.
Or you want me to copy and paste?? Here's the relevant info:
Duration of test: 18 hours
Flow rate: 3,000 L/h = ~833 ml/s.
Cooling water input temperature: 15°C
Cooling water output temperature: ~20°C
Input power from control electronics: variable, average 80 W, closer to 20 W for 6 hours
The temperature difference of 5°C * 833 ml = 4,165 calories/second = 17,493 W. Observers estimated average power as 16 kW. A 5°C temperature difference can easily be measured with confidence.
The control electronics input of ~80 W is in line with what was reported for tests before Jan. 14. Input power was high on that day because there was a problem with cracked welding, according to the Levi report.
18 hours * 16 kW = 288 kWh = 1,037 MJ. That is the amount of energy in 26 kg of gasoline (7.9 gallons). Given the size and weight of the device, this rules out a chemical source of energy.
So, what you think of the other researcher we brought up above? is he faking it with the scotch tape?
Not at thing. Experiment gives precisely a "starting temperature", a "final temperature", and a volume. About as simple as it gets. And meets all the stated criteria.
>> “ Secret catalysts are added to break apart molecular hydrogen gas (H2) into atomic hydrogen (H1)” <<
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Catalysts can make a plasma?
Doesn’t sound right.
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