If JoePa had run PSU as abuse reports handled, fans would've screamed for head [Vanity Analogy IV]

Colofornian (Vanity Wrap-Up) | Nov. 14, 2011 | Colofornian

[dfwgator]

Yes, I love how all of the politicians are ready to throw Paterno under the bus, while ignoring the Pedo, Bawney Frank, that is in their midst.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“That columnist says: The culture of indifference”

He can say anything - it is an opinion. In the end, the vast majority of Penn Staters are
heartbroken, want the whole place cleaned out and are looking forward to getting it done.

Once a new coach is named, he will likely bring in his own people anyway. I’ve wanted that
for [other reasons] at least 10 years now.

[Colofornian]

Once a new coach is named, he will likely bring in his own people anyway. I’ve wanted that for [other reasons] at least 10 years now.

Yes.

In the end, the vast majority of Penn Staters are heartbroken, want the whole place cleaned out and are looking forward to getting it done.

Well, I'm not sure how you quantify that.

Just from several FREEPER Paterno supporters alone, I can't even conclude that the majority of FREEPER Penn St fans (let alone the vast majority) have concluded what you've said here. [I am bolstered that you seem to represent a sizeable # of Penn State fans who have responded in the right way]

The other thing that I didn't mention was summarized well by Dennis Prager on his talk show.

To paraphrase him, he said, "How can you keep this type of thing from happening in the future [at any campus] unless you understand what happened here?"

IOW, there are those operating like they are calling off a jam at a roller derby match...they similarly would like to cut off any "pathology" discussion of what led to this unimaginable series of events and daily silence for so many years.

Peer pressure (to stay quiet) is inevitably a cultural and sub-cultural issue -- that unless one has the internal fortitude to oppose it...cannibalizes all in sight.

Besides...just as the Roman Catholic church cover-ups fostered discussions for weeks, months, and years, I don't think even if Penn State could marshal 100,000 roller derby types trying to cut off the media "jam" this quickly.

[Colofornian]

ALL: For a parallel analogy of what I mention in the vanity...re: the various scenarios involved, see posts #37, #38, #39 @:
On 'SNL,' Penn State scandal offends even Satan

[dfwgator]

I thought about could this also happen at my Alma Mater, the University of Florida, where, like Penn State, college football is king.

I think one difference is the local police....Gainesville Police are not beholden to the football program. Evidence is the 31 UF Football players arrested during Urban Meyer’s tenure. So certainly it stands to reason if any such shenanigans were going on at UF, it wouldn’t have gotten that far, without the local police getting involved.

Also UF faces a lot of scrutiny from the Orlando, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, press. Certainly UF couldn’t keep many secrets from all of those journalists. Whereas it seems in Happy Valley, they had tight control on what journalists could and could not report on regarding the program.

Basically I think we need to look at what went on at the local police and judicial level at Happy Valley, did they squelch anything that might appear to damage the cash cow that is Penn State football, if so, that might be the most troubling thing of all about this.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Let’s be realistic. Now that this is in the light, a full investigation will be done
by the Trustees and the District Attorney. I am expecting more victims to come forward,
and more heads to roll.

I feel bad for Joe, but I don’t think they had a choice. I am willing to wait to learn
exactly what he knew and when before I go further. That said, I think him leaving was
an important step in shaking the roots of the whole system. I’m glad Spanier is gone
with his homo-loving ways.

The barnyard will be flooded and cleared away. I don’t speak for anyone but me. I have
spoken with a number of alumni - brother, former football player who was there Saturday
on the sideline, former classmates, etc. All were heartbroken that something that evil happened
at their university. The football player observed to me that as the 200 former players stood
to greet the team on its way into the stadium, you “could see in their eyes” the toll this
has taken emotionally on them.” Same was said by Osborn about his players.

At this juncture, it will play out and when the barnyard is cleared out, they can carry on.
The victims will never be back to what they were before Sandusky had his evil pleasure. Nothing
will change that now, sadly. Only Christ can make a broken life new.

[Colofornian]

All were heartbroken that something that evil happened at their university. The football player observed to me that as the 200 former players stood to greet the team on its way into the stadium, you “could see in their eyes” the toll this has taken emotionally on them.” Same was said by Osborn about his players.

Thanks for sharing this.

There is hope here.

You see, what I've been "hoping" for is people to take the "corporate culture" to heart individually [vs. circle the wagons and defend the campus sub-culture].

You are describing players who had no direct role in what went on; yet possibly have "owned" this as their own.

Still...I use the word "possibly" because we don't know that "emotional toll" you describe was due primarily to the sudden departures of Paterno/McQueary...
...or, the significance of identifying with abused victims...
...or, both -- in various weighted proportions.