NI And The eCat Money Trail

Perhaps NI is simply throwing Rossi a bone?
***I agree.

I don’t see NI’s involvement as that big of a sign at this point.
***True enough. NI probably stands to win big if this turns out real, and stands to lose very little if it’s a fraud. I work for a competitor, so I’m basically jealous at this point.

21 posted on 11/12/2011 8:25:18 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)

To: TennesseeProfessor

hype a very routine transaction into a major deal,
***That does appear to be the case here. There are so few verifiable facts being released that the “ecat people” make a big deal out of relatively small stuff.

22 posted on 11/12/2011 8:30:10 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)

***Then find the lie. Rossi’s claims seem to be expanding, so it will become easier to catch him in an outright scam if that’s what this is.

All of the scams I've researched have taken between 5 and 10 years to fall apart. So, if Rossi is a con artist, I don't expect it to become so obvious that even the true believers give up anytime soon.

Still waiting for:

Independent confirmation that the E-Cat does anything.
Independent confirmation of a customer.
Independent information of a manufacturing facility. (Is it still in a 5th floor apartment in Florida?)
Independent confirmation that "Colonel Domenico Faviorinti", who Rossi claims is a NATO engineer, actually exists.

That last point is, I think, important. It's rather amazing that with all the publicity and all the people pouring over every little detail of this saga, that no one has come forward with even one reference to this person's existence prior to the day he showed up at Rossi's latest dog & pony show.

Recent bits of actual news (as opposed to breathless hype):

Rossi signed a contract with National Instruments to buy controllers.
National Instruments is not a Rossi Customer.
Bologna University has not been working with Rossi, and if any of their staff have been involved, they have done so without University backing. (Did Rossi claim this? It might be worth reviewing his statements for discrepancies).
NASA found Rossi's tests to be inadequate to prove his claims.

23 posted on 11/13/2011 5:28:01 AM PST by Johnny B.

None of what you posted is finding the lie. For instance, just because you’re still waiting for independent confirmation does not prove a lie. Rossi has said that his demos are aimed at customers, and that this is how he will establish credibility. Just because he doesn’t do it the way you want, doesn’t mean he’s lying.

NASA found Rossi’s tests to be inadequate to prove his claims.
***They say that he has not tested long enough to them to prove that it’s nuclear. It could be a chemical reaction after all is said and done. If such is the case, NASA will be seen as falling down on the job.

24 posted on 11/13/2011 10:09:11 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)

None of what you posted is finding the lie.

True, but none of what Rossi does is proving the truth.

Rossi has spent a year engaged in a huge publicity campaign, while at the same time refusing to perform the simple tests that would prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is not engaging in fraud.

You believe that it's just "Rossi being Rossi", that is, he's eccentric and that excuses any shortcomings in his work. I contend that he is intentionally producing demos that entice but do not prove anything.

It could be a chemical reaction after all

He claims he is converting Nickel into Copper and Iron. That, by definition is a nuclear reaction.

Of course, since the sample of his spent "fuel" contained only natural isotopes, in the exact same ratio as in nature, it would have been extremely easy for him to have faked that. Contrast this with Miley, who discovered 39 different non-natural isotope concentrations. Producing a sample with 39 non-natural isotopes would be extremely difficult. Rossi's sample could have been faked with the contents of a kid's chemistry set.

25 posted on 11/14/2011 3:32:33 AM PST by Johnny B.

Without twisting ourselves in knots to deny the mere possibility that the eCat does what it says on the tin, perhaps the following is true: National Instruments believe they are going to make money. They fully understand the waters they are entering. They trust Rossi or they will be paid up front. Either way, a real customer or investor has stepped in .

Who writes this drivel?

26 posted on 11/14/2011 3:42:56 AM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)

None of what you posted is finding the lie.
True,

***Well, then, ‘nuff said.

27 posted on 11/14/2011 7:46:15 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)

None of what you posted is finding the lie.
True,

***Well, then, ‘nuff said.

28 posted on 11/14/2011 7:46:18 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)

None of what you posted is finding the lie.
True,

***Well, then, ‘nuff said.

29 posted on 11/14/2011 7:46:18 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)

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