Bill Clinton Loves Perry On Immigration

The Blaze Blog ^ | November 7, 2011 at 6:00pm | Eddie Scarry

[Grunthor]

The legislature made him do it?

[napscoordinator]

We have been forced to make less than optimum decisions in order to deal with the Feds failures.

Same ole song and dance. Why don’t you look to Arizona and Alabama as states that have the SAME problems but deal with them in a conservative way instead of a liberal way that Perry does. You never seem to be able to answer that situation. You claim that Perry is conservative but he knocked Arizona’s strict illegal alien crackdown and he has not followed or lead what Alabama did. You can’t have it both ways.

[magritte]

Maryland? I wonder, is in-state tuition allowed for illegal immigrants there?

[af_vet_rr]

Sorry, I don’t believe it.

You don't believe what?

[RitaOK]

Take your zot impulse to the cry room. The adults are having a discussion, and your tantrums now appear to be making your face turn purple.

[GeronL]

lol.

Adults. Right.

“but but but he couldn’t veto it.... they passed it with too wide a margin”....

as if he hasn’t been championing it ever since.

[af_vet_rr]

The legislature made him do it?

The Texas legislature made him go on CNN four days ago and give an interview where he said illegals should get work visas that allow them to move back and forth between countries?

That's very interesting. I wasn't even aware the legislature was in session or that they had that kind of power. I was under the impression that he gave that interview voluntarily.

[RitaOK]

I never heard of such a thing. That facility.

[mylife]

Alabama is getting sued by the Feds and Perry said the Az bill was not right for Texas, not because he isn’t for border control but be cause Texas has different geography.

[Grunthor]

The legislature made him do it?

The Texas legislature made him go on CNN four days ago and give an interview where he said illegals should get work visas that allow them to move back and forth between countries?

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Well following mylifes’ “logic” this is the only conclusion that one could come to.

[napscoordinator]

Maryland? I wonder, is in-state tuition allowed for illegal immigrants there?

Yep. Just found out through an internet search (Community Colleges only. Not other state schools). Either way this is horrible. Well that will kill the Presidential chances for the Governor. Now why don't you guys make the same commitment.

[napscoordinator]

Thanks for that explanation. No matter what I think of Perry. It doesn’t matter. I still cannot believe that he had this nomination all sewn up and he personally screwed it up. Neither one of us can dispute that.

[af_vet_rr]

I never heard of such a thing. That facility.

It exists.

Unfortunately, I was wrong - it looks like Obama caved in 2009 and turned it into a female-only facility. The ACLU won a lawsuit to improve conditions for families and children and have some children/families released while Bush was still in the White House:

The American Civil Liberties Union today announced a landmark settlement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that greatly improves conditions for immigrant children and their families inside the T. Don Hutto detention center in Taylor, Texas. Dozens of children were released from the facility with their families as a result of the litigation. The settlement is expected to be approved shortly by Judge Sam Sparks of the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas.

"This is a huge victory not only for the children and families that have been released from Hutto, but for every detainee held at the facility, now or in the future," said Vanita Gupta, a staff attorney with the ACLU's Racial Justice Program. "Though we continue to believe that Hutto is an inappropriate place to house children,conditions have drastically improved in areas like education, recreation, medical care, and privacy."

Additional improvements ICE will be required to make as a result of the settlement include allowing children over the age of 12 to move freely about the facility; providing a full-time, on-site pediatrician; eliminating the count system so that families are not forced to stay in their cells 12 hours a day; installing privacy curtains around toilets; offering field trip opportunities to children; supplying more toys and age-and language-appropriate books; and improving the nutritional value of food. ICE must also allow regular legal orientation presentations by local immigrants' rights organizations; allow family and friends to visit Hutto detainees seven days a week; and allow children to keep paper and pens in their rooms. ICE's compliance with each of these reforms, as well as other conditions reforms, will be subject to external oversight to ensure their permanence.

[hocndoc]

Perry won 40% of the Latino/Hispanic vote in 2010.

[mylife]

Also Perry addressed another controversial part of the law that got them sued by the FEDS.

He made it Illegal to prevent Texas officers from asking for immigration status.

Perry doesn’t do things the showboat way.
He does them the legal way.

[Quicksilver]

What would happen if Texas were to repeal the law?

Would there be less illegal immigration? Nope.

Would Texas gain or lose tax revenues? Lose.

Where would the kids go to college? They’d go to whichever state that offered the best opportunity for them.

IMO, it’s a distraction. The focus should be on securing the border.

[af_vet_rr]

Well following mylifes’ “logic” this is the only conclusion that one could come to.

Ahhh, LOL. I really don't know why Perry had to go and say that not only should they get work visas, but that they should be allowed to move back and forth between countries. That is going to be brought up at the upcoming debates. You can't say that criminals should be given work visas and allowed to move back and forth between countries, you just can't do that.

[mylife]

He certainly did screw the pooch.

[fight_truth_decay]

Your unemployment rate and the state of Maine is lower than Texas as of September 2011. And we do not have the gas and oil wealth to draw from.

Regional and State Employment and Unemployment Summary"
For release 10:00 a.m. (EDT) Friday, October 21, 2011

However there is still great wealth in Texas which has enjoyed years of a financial boom and with all that comes service jobs such as housekeeping, landscaping -labor Americans don't want to do scenario.

I think of Maryland as a bedroom community for the Washington elite--and as government grows so does their housing sector, restaurants, etc.

Maine on the other hand does not enjoy any of those above mentioned types of Big Business/The Hill job security; but what has been achieved is because of Maine's new Republican Governor Paul LePage who does it the hard way by rolling up sleeves and getting down to work in passing a budget, checking it twice.. and where it appears both sides of the aisle seem to get along as bills for the most part are being passed in a bipartisan manner; however they are still saddled with billions in pensions and higher taxes which has kept business from coming there. Now, meetings with the neighbors to the North in order to cut energy prices are in the works..but 47 years of Democratic control does not just change things over night.

"Apples to Oranges."

[napscoordinator]

He does them the legal way.

A positive for sure.