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Herman Cain: Why I Support Him
The Band Of Patriots ^ | October 8th, 2011 | Felicia Graham

Posted on 10/09/2011 10:21:19 AM PDT by orthodoxyordeath

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To: BarnacleCenturion

Our forefathers intended that our elected officials come from main street USA. They never intended that DC be infested with career politicians. We have diverted so far from their vision of the America they knew and loved.
That’s why I support Herman Cain.


21 posted on 10/09/2011 11:27:29 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Our forefathers intended that our elected officials come from main street USA. They never intended that DC be infested with career politicians. We have diverted so far from their vision of the America they knew and loved.
That’s why I support Herman Cain.


22 posted on 10/09/2011 11:27:39 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: beancounter13; FromTheSidelines
Beeancouter,

Your criticism of 9-9-9 applies even more to the current system

There is nothing in the current tax code that prevents Congress to from simply raising rates 20-30-50%.

This same complaint about 9-9-9 applies even more so to the current tax code. It would actually be much hard to raise tax rates under 9-9-9 since you could not hide it as a “tax on business” or “making the rich pay their fair share”.

Everyone pays so everyone knows any tax hike requires them to pay more. It eliminates the current system illusion that the poor get a free ride while the rich pays all the taxes. Those indirect taxes hidden in the current code are eliminated and replaced by a transparent flat rate

So your criticism of 9-9-9 is completely without rational merit.

23 posted on 10/09/2011 11:29:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Donnafrflorida

None if them will be left standing after MSM and the TOTUS get done with them.
None except Cain and Newt. Newt won’t win GE.

If you think they did a job on Palin YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!
This is going to be a ACORN ,SEIU , UNION, BLACK PANTHER , SOROS HOLLYWOOD, WALL STREET, Chicago billion dollar WAR!!!!
Our candidate will have 90% of MSM and print media after him day after day. 24/7.
Cain has the best chance of it back firing and working to his favor. Can’t use racism. Can’t use class warfare (too much).


24 posted on 10/09/2011 11:30:38 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Perry also has a concealed handgun license, has shown his willingness to use his firearm, and has promised to nominate Pro-Life Justices to the Supreme Court.

Every conservative should remember 2 things before they are quick to bash Bush 43:

1) Chief Justice John Roberts
2) Justice Samuel Alito*

*Granted, we had to remind him of his obligation on this one since he originally nominated Miers.


25 posted on 10/09/2011 11:30:54 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: beancounter13

Ah yes the good old Romney guilt by association smear.

Rudy Giuliani and Rick Perry are way more then one time buddies. So please explain to me why I should be worried about Cain’s monetary support in 2008 for Romney and not be concerned about Perry’s close relationship with uber GOP Liberal Rudy Gullianni?

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/274042/perry-and-giuliani-katrina-trinko

Rick Perry is a Texan who boasts about how he shot a coyote during a morning jog. Rudy Giuliani is a New Yorker who has appeared before crowds in full drag as “Rudia.”

When it comes to political “romances,” Perry and Giuliani rank high on the list of odd couples. Perry’s endorsement of Giuliani’s 2008 presidential run came as shock to many in the GOP, who wondered why such a robust social conservative was the first (and ultimately, only) Republican governor to endorse a candidate who is openly pro-abortion and favors gay rights. But that endorsement was no one-time incident, nor a flash in the pan. For over a decade, Perry and Giuliani have supported one another through a series of races, with endorsements, public statements, and fundraising assistance. Different they may be, but they are nothing if not committed

s far back as 1999, Perry served as the honorary Texas chairman of Giuliani’s New York senatorial campaign. (The Texans for Giuliani invitation to a $1,000 per plate luncheon that Perry hosted employed this message: “We Texans need to ask ourselves how helpful do we think Hillary Rodham Clinton would be to the Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush if he were to become president?”) In both 2002 and 2006, Giuliani returned the favor, endorsing Perry’s gubernatorial runs. In the 2006 race — a difficult one for Perry, who would ultimately eke out a win with 39 percent of the vote, just enough to catapult him over the other candidates in the four-person race — Giuliani’s endorsement was well-utilized and undoubtedly useful. In addition to a radio spot featuring America’s mayor, the Perry campaign sent out a fundraising letter touting Giuliani’s endorsement of Perry as a “strong and determined leader.”

In 2005, Giuliani joined Texas law firm Bracewell & Patterson (re-named Bracewell & Giuliani), strengthening his ties to the Lone Star State — and to affluent Texas Republicans ripe for fundraising appeals. Two years later, he sought out Perry’s endorsement for his 2008 presidential run. He got it.

A Perry aide paraphrased how Perry explained his support for Giuliani this way: “We don’t agree on social issues, but Mayor Giuliani provided leadership during a time of crisis for the country.” To Perry, Giuliani was a figure who had stellar national-security credentials, a key issue for him.

After citing the importance of the War on Terror, Perry publicly explained his Giuliani endorsement by pointing to the former mayor of New York’s track record: “What I look for is results, and Rudy Giuliani is the individual who will give us the results that will make America safer, that will move our economy forward, that will put strict constructionists on the Supreme Court, that covers a host of issues that are important to me and I think a lot of my colleagues and Americans as well,” he enthusiastically told Fox News host Brian Kilmeade in fall, 2007.

In that interview, Perry brushed off the ideological differences between the two men. He noted that he and Giuliani had discussed some of the issues that divided them, and spent an “inordinate amount of time together over the course of the last six weeks talking about issues both on the phone and face to face.” Those discussion satisfied Perry. According to the Dallas Morning News, Perry told reporters that Giuliani had “assured [Perry] that in nominating Supreme Court justices and on other important issues, a Giuliani administration would serve the conservative cause.”

Perry’s pre-emptive attempt to acknowledge that — and explain why — he had endorsed a candidate whose views on social issues differed so markedly from his own did not soften the surprise. In the aftermath of the announcement, much of the media coverage centered on speculation that Perry was aiming at the second slot on the ticket. Perry shot that down forcefully, saying bluntly he wouldn’t consider the vice presidency, but rumors abounded nonetheless. The Dallas Morning News reported that the Perry political camp saw little choice other than Giuliani since “Mr. Thompson’s campaign has sputtered and Sen. John McCain of Arizona is a long-shot.” (The relationship between Romney and Perry, if not outright hostile, had been at least complicated since an incident at the 2002 Olympics where the Boy Scouts were not allowed to participate, something for which Perry criticized Romney.) But the disbelief persisted: In comparison to Perry, “Giuliani comes across like Michael Moore,” wrote Austin American-Statesman columnist John Kelso, comparing the duo to “Dick Cheney touring with the Dixie Chicks.”

Despite the controversy, Perry did not downplay his endorsement but instead became a more vocal supporter of Giuliani. He campaigned for him in South Carolina, and that fall went on a four-day sweep through Iowa. Talking to voters at a roundtable in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Perry made his pitch for Giuliani by striking a pragmatic tone: “ You can have your purist candidate,” he argued. But “if they can’t win, you just wasted your time.” The voters were not convinced. A Dallas Morning News headline summed up Perry’s success in Iowa: “Perry Wins over Voters — But Not for Giuliani. Iowans Like Messenger More than His Message.”

In December, Perry added to the tension with a slip of the tongue. Defending Giuliani’s pro-abortion stance by citing his promise to support strict constructionist judges, the Houston Chronicle reported Perry saying, “Then the issue becomes very, very clear to me from the standpoint of who I want to support, and it is Mike Huckabee.” When questioned about what he had just said, Perry immediately called the Huckabee mention an “error.” But it lead to another round of publicity: The Austin American-Statesman headline said Perry had “defended” his Huckabee mention as “un-Freudian,” planting an idea in voters’ minds unlikely to cheer the Giuliani campaign.

As Giuliani’s campaign fell into disarray, Perry kept fighting, doing a five-stop sweep in January through Florida introducing Giuliani at rallies. But it wasn’t enough, and, when the Guiliani campaign impoloded at the height of the 2008 primary season, Perry found himself without a candidate. In February, he endorsed McCain, employing unsentimental language: “He and I may not agree on every issue,” Perry said when announcing the new endorsement, according to the Dallas Morning News.

Guiliani’s presidential ambitions may have evaporated in the Florida sunshine, but his friendship with Rick Perry continues to this day. In the 2010 gubernatorial primary, Giuliani backed Perry over the more socially moderate Kay Bailey Hutchinson, even going so far as to go to Texas to campaign for his friend. And the two don’t limit their conversation exclusively to politics: Perry told a Dallas audience last year that Giuliani had offered to bet him a pair of Texas cowboy boots that the New York Yankees would beat the Texas Rangers in the upcoming round of playoffs leading up to the World Series. (Perry must have received his boots: The Rangers won the series, 4–2.)

Now, with the 2012 primary drawing near, and both men considered possible candidates, their comity remains. “Rick has got a great record, probably one of the strongest records of any governor in America, and one of the longest running governorships. Rick is a good friend,” Giuliani told CNN this July. Dave Carney, a top political adviser to Perry, told the Washington Post that same month that “Rudy would be an awesome asset to any campaign. Of course candidates matter to voters, but folks of the mayor’s stature bring lot of value added to any effort.”

And so the bromance continues.


26 posted on 10/09/2011 11:30:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: beancounter13
"Everybody loves him, but nobody seems to know who he is or why they like him."

I'm really growing weary of this belief/opinion/statement on almost every Cain thread (not all of them made by you, of course).

The blogger lays out very well why she likes him.

As for me, I've been aware of Cain since the 90's and I know who he is and why I like him.

Why is it that so many people assume Cain supporters are totally ignorant about him?

27 posted on 10/09/2011 11:31:38 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Regarding 999

To put it simply..
If you take
A) the 47% that file income tax and dont pay taxes
B) all the folks working under the table
C) all the folks engaged in illegal trafficking
D) all the folks who get back 2000 to 6000 MORE than they paid (EIC)
E) all the wealthy that use loop holes and CPAs to pay low or NO taxes.


28 posted on 10/09/2011 11:32:11 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Regarding 999

To put it simply..
If you take
A) the 47% that file income tax and dont pay taxes
B) all the folks working under the table
C) all the folks engaged in illegal trafficking
D) all the folks who get back 2000 to 6000 MORE than they paid (EIC)
E) all the wealthy that use loop holes and CPAs to pay low or NO taxes.


29 posted on 10/09/2011 11:32:20 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: GRRRRR

I stand corrected. When I first opened the page, I saw his big picture and wondered whether I was at his campaign site. The links seem to be supportive of his various stump speeches, but I would like to know where he stands when the camera isn’t on.

As for him being from GA: I am perfectly okay with that.


30 posted on 10/09/2011 11:38:47 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: Donnafrflorida
The 9-9-9 plan includes “empowerment Zone” with tax breaks for employers within those zones and people residing within the zones. What the heck is that?

It sounds like an enormous loophole to me designed to favor some specific group of people.

Do not know about you, but I have had enough of this type of “income redistribution.”

31 posted on 10/09/2011 11:42:07 AM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: MNJohnnie
...the 10th Amendment is not a suggestion.

Exactly my point, so what do you think would really happen if Roe vs. Wade were overturned?

A: Not much, really. Some states, such as Texas would be allowed to outlaw the practice. Other states, such as California, would continue to allow them as always.

The solution is in ensuring that our President appoints Supreme Court Justices who will respect the 10th Amendment. From what I have seen, Cain will not really care about the 10th Amendment in his appointments. Such carelessness will most assuredly give us Justices that would declare a "national right" to homosexuality, polygamy, or any other social issue simply because it is allowed in some states but not all. This is what happened with abortion, and it is the model the progressives are currently using.

32 posted on 10/09/2011 11:46:45 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: beancounter13

Your reply makes no sense - how is what you’re talking about different from what we have today?

Going to a 9-9-9 plan would be a win for at least the duration of the Cain administration - and it would do a huge amount to lower real unemployment and get the economy going again.


33 posted on 10/09/2011 11:47:50 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: MNJohnnie

Not completely without merit:

We don’t have a national sales tax today. That would have to be legislated first.

Once that camel’s nose is in the tent, all bets are off.


34 posted on 10/09/2011 11:50:40 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: LOC1

Well, he does describe himself as American first, black second, and conservative third. It’s not surprising he wants to help out a certain group. Imagine if Perry had said he viewed himself as American first, white second, and conservative third. I am really tired of race based politics.


35 posted on 10/09/2011 11:50:56 AM PDT by jimnm
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To: LOC1

And the system we have today is better how?


36 posted on 10/09/2011 11:51:20 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: LOC1

And the system we have today is better how?


37 posted on 10/09/2011 11:51:32 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: beancounter13
I'm sorry but when you cling to an ignorant opinion in the face of facts, it is impossible to take you seriously.

NO One can pry open your welded shut mind for you. YOU have to do that.

Attempting to lie and distort Cain's record does not help your candidate. It merely makes you look ignorant and childish.

38 posted on 10/09/2011 11:53:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: make no mistake
Has Cain explained why he would not consider the VP slot for Perry?

Not that I have heard and it would be interesting if he explained why he put the answer that way. It was odd that he said he'd be willing to run as VP in the first place much less set conditions for doing so. Not usually something a candidate intent on winning would utter out loud, the position being a "pitcher of warm spit" and all.

By now the unwillingness to share a ticket with Gov. Perry is probably quite mutual.

39 posted on 10/09/2011 11:53:41 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: beancounter13
Well I find it interesting that a supposed social conservative like yourself is so willing to violate the 9th Commandment about bearing false witness.

Your claims are lies. Here are the facts about Cain with sources. Notice this is on the record sources, not your made up lies.

I support right-to-life issues unequivocally and I adamantly support the first three aspects of the Susan B. Anthony pledge involving appointing pro-life judges, choosing pro-life cabinet members, and ending taxpayer-funded abortions.

However, the fourth requirement demands that I ‘advance’ the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act. As president, I would sign it, but Congress must advance the legislation.

I have been a consistent and unwavering champion of pro life issues.

In no way does this singular instance of clarification denote an abandonment of the pro-life movement, but instead, is a testament to my respect for the balance of power and the role of the presidency.”

_________________

African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life
http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/

National Right to Life Conference Speech
http://hermancainissues.com/speeches/right-to-life-conference-speech-62411/

Herman Cain on Abortion
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Herman_Cain_Abortion.htm

2004 - Herman Cain blasts Roe v. Wade (Free Republic - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1063707/posts

And Alveda King affirmed on Facebook that she knew and worked with Cain on Pro-life issues over the years and testifies that he is Prolife

Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/

40 posted on 10/09/2011 11:58:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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