Posted on 09/23/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
It’s a physical FENCE in urban areas and a patrolled border in areas where there are 2000 miles of wide open spaces.
But the border MUST BE SEALED before anything else is discussed.
PERIOD.
Are you FOR the children of illegals getting the preferential treatment of paying less in tuition than legal Americans from out-of-state? Yes or no???
Most of those kids have lived in Texas most of their lives.
I don’t blame Perry - I blame the Federal Government.
If the Federal Government would secure the border and enforce the illegal immigration laws this would not be an issue.
The Federal Government does not allow Texas to enforce immigration law. The Federal Government will not allow Texas to deport illegals. The Federal Government forces Texas to not only educate illegals kids through high school but also the medical/hospitals have to treat them for their illnesses. When illegals are turned over to the Federal Government - they turn them back out on the street.
If we pass laws regarding immigration - the Federal Government will sue us just like they did Arizona.
Texas passed a law just months ago that you have to show proof of being a US Citizen to get a drivers license and a Federal Court put a stop on it.
This problem has to be dealt with on a Federal Level first.
Once the Federal Government enforces the illegal immigration laws, secures the border and reverses the law that requires states to educate illegals kids then the problem will cease to exist.
Do you think people who oppose that are heartless?
I think they do not understand the situation the Federal Government has put the state of Texas in.
People are blaming Texans and Perry for something that is a situation arising out of the Federal Governments ineptitude and failure to do it’s job.
And why Texas? There are many other states who have the same law and they are not even border states.
I believe many people have misplaced their anger against Perry, Texans and innocent kids who committed no crime.
I believe they should be angry with their government.
The 2006 Secure Fence Act was overwhelming approved including with votes from Obama and Hillary Clinton. About a year later, a little known amendment attached to a bill sponsored by Kay Baily Hutcheson, essentially gutted the bill allowing the physical barriers contained in the bill to be replaced by the "virtual fence." Opposition to the fence came from small town mayors along the Texas-Mexico border who did not want a fence built in their towns, which makes Perry's comment that the fences should be built in urban areas curious to say the least.
Just a few years ago the Border Patrol was apprehending over 1 million people a year trying to cross the border. Today it is around 500,000. And more get thru than are apprehended. We are being invaded.
Gov. Perry has been for this, including structure fencing in urban areas.
The Bushes and Rove ran her against Gov. Perry in the last primary and she LOST.
Some of them. But that is not the requirement for the Texas Dream Act. All they have to do to qualify is sign a paper saying they will apply for legal immigration status (no time limit, not even 100 years). If this program is intended for those who have filed an application for permanent resident, why don't they require it?
Plus, every state that passes its Dream Act strengthens the national Dream Act, (rejected so far in congress), which gives illegals up to age 35 "conditional permanent resident status."
AFAIK you are mistaken. A promise to apply for legal status at some future date, with no time limit, is meaningless.
Note: "...or will file..." 5. I have filed or will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity that I am eligible to do so.
For Mexicans leaving Texas to get to Mexico is a trivial matter.
They came to the border; they asked to come in; Spain ~ and then Mexico ~ said "change your church" and they changed their church.
Then they went inside and started their settlements.
Next thing you know there's a bad dictator ~ Santa Anna (sp?). Then, whadda' you know, there's an independent country ~ they called it Texas.
The whole place is a lesson in why you must have ORDERLY entry on the part of any would be group of immigrants; else they'll take over the place.
Lower East Side in New York is another one ~ and they still don't even try to speak English.
And all you need is a GED in Texas to apply—not just a HS dregree from a Texas HS. You can be an adult who entered the country illegally and then apply. The use of helpless children who were brought here by their illegal alien parents is a smokescreen. Under the proposed federal Dream Act, people up to age 35 could apply.
“The minute a kid realizes he’s supposed to be living in Mexico (or wherever) he has a duty to morality to high tail it back!
For Mexicans leaving Texas to get to Mexico is a trivial matter.”
From most testimonies I have heard, they usually find out when they are around 5 to 6 years old.
So, you think 5-6 year old kids have the moral responsibility to high tail back to Mexico?
Thanks. I think Perry would look better to the general voting public if he had vetoed the dream act with the objection that the “requirement” to promise to apply for legal status was no requirement at all. The legislature could have made the change or overridden the veto. Either way, it would make Perry look stronger. But no doubt La Raza would not like it.
The Texas legislature passed it the first time with only 4 no votes. Second time zero no votes.
Now that took some work.........
Could be ~ maybe as soon as they can punch the numbers on a telephone they could call ICE for their “free ticket home”.
Of course it's not real Christian morality but a pale imitation of it ~ kind of like the idea the Quakers had that YOU should let the WILD INDIANS have your stuff and kidnap your CHILDREN and rape your WIFE and eat your Chickens ~ while they sit there safely behind a stockade in Philadelphia eating brie and sipping wine.
Perry would do better with some advisors from somewhere else.
Its not just what Perry says, for me his mannerisms, stance and his face tell me not to trust him...its just a gut feeling....The whole package that is Perry is a big put off to me...
Its not just what Perry says, for me his mannerisms, stance and his face tell me not to trust him...its just a gut feeling....The whole package that is Perry is a big put off to me...
My thoughts exactly....he seems like a weasel.
Good word for him, weasel...add sneaky and its the total package..
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