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Debunking the "Debunking": Rick Perry Still Can't Answer for His Record
Students4Palin ^ | 9/5/2011 | Mary

Posted on 09/05/2011 6:31:29 AM PDT by Students4Palin

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To: ontap
Politics is fluid... things change dramatically in primary seasons. I remember howard dean being "unbeatable"... I remember hildebeast being the assured dim candidate... I remember when krauthammer, barnes, liason, Hume, and Barrone all said that juan mccain was a pathetic candidate... that he should drop out of the race... that he had only the press and a dozen or so supporters showing up for his events... now they were right about his being a pathetic candidate BUT... my my my... how things can change in a primary season... and I promise you that things are going to change.

LLS

41 posted on 09/05/2011 7:22:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Students4Palin

Debunking the Debunking of the Debunking: Sarah Palin's Alaska 2nd largest recipient of Federal funds after Washington D.C.



ve-tax-dollars

The state with the second-highest federal tax allotments per capita is Alaska with $13,950.



You really want to compare Texas and Alaska? You really want to play this Palin is better than Perry game? If you do, you better get your facts straight.
42 posted on 09/05/2011 7:23:35 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Students4Palin
Nicely done! And welcome to FR.

Now if students are finding this discrepancy, how long before Romney and the MSM do?

43 posted on 09/05/2011 7:23:42 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Question 2: Governors (conservative ones at least which excludes your boy)

Either this post was not directed at me or you're not too bright.

44 posted on 09/05/2011 7:26:36 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Read my last post and weep. My only contention is that Alaska has a net positive receipts in tax money vs. Texas having a net negative. Thus the original post claiming that Palin was more frugal than Perry in receiving federal money was flawed.

What point are you attempting to make?
45 posted on 09/05/2011 7:26:41 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Sudetenland

Good day to you.


46 posted on 09/05/2011 7:27:39 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Students4Palin; All

please put me on the ping list

Perry should be “vetted” until he thinks he’s a dog.


47 posted on 09/05/2011 7:27:42 AM PDT by ak267
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To: Brices Crossroads; Students4Palin; EnglishCon; thouworm; American in Israel; Bikkuri; ...
...a contrast between his over-reliance on Obama stimulus cash and the prudent conservative approach by conservative governors such as Rick Scott and Sarah Palin.

Um, it seems Palin took stimulus cash in Alaska. I posted an excerpt from the Alaska budget stating how crucial it was.

Oops.

48 posted on 09/05/2011 7:27:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: kayak42; TigersEye; ontap; chevydude26

Some here should learn more about Palin’s governorship and compare that to Perry’s governorship.

As to federal dollars...
They come with many thick ropes.

Perry does need to be vetted more, regardless of the objections of his supporters. Reason being that the Democrats will uncover and question everything anyway. May as well find out now and figure out how to defend it all, or find out whether Perry should be defended.

As to Palin not running — yet.
Remember that Reagan did not announce until November 13, 1979.
On that schedule, Palin has two more months.


49 posted on 09/05/2011 7:29:12 AM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: TigersEye
“1) What control does a governor have over Federal dollars coming into their state?”

The same power one has on whether to do drugs or not... they can just say NO.

“2) Why would a governor fight against receiving Federal dollars?”

I don't know... maybe for the same reasons that Federal Dollars have destroyed the education system in this country.

LLS

50 posted on 09/05/2011 7:29:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Thank you for giving direct answers and congratulations on actually understanding the questions in context.


51 posted on 09/05/2011 7:32:08 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Anytime my FRiend.

LLS


52 posted on 09/05/2011 7:34:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Students4Palin has done a masterful job. Excellent work by a very gifted writer!!!

Hyperbole much?

IMHO, believing that this "gifted writer" is actually a "student" somewhere just coming up with this all by their lonesome requires ... a willing suspension of disbelief.

Anything called "________4Palin" is from the campaign (hopefully official soon) and it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

53 posted on 09/05/2011 7:35:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Anamnesis
So I guess your argument is that everything taken in a deliberately bad light about Palin is bad, but everything taken in a deliberately bad light about Perry is good. Nice standards of integrity you Palinistas have. Hypocrisy is good when it defends Palin.

Most of the attacks against Perry posted on this forum by Palin supporters are the equivalent of the "Palin is a quitter" attack, based on a false premise deliberately misinterpreted to lead the reader to a wrong conclusion. It is true of the Perry is a closet Islamist, it is true of this revenue smear, it is especially true of "Perry supported Hilary care" smear.

If the Palinistas don't want the same tactics used against Sarah, they need to stop all of these spurious attacks against Perry.
54 posted on 09/05/2011 7:35:16 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Erik Latranyi; All

Um, it seems Palin took stimulus cash in Alaska. I posted an excerpt from the Alaska budget stating how crucial it was.

Oops.


Ahhhh, she vetoed it but her veto was overidden by the legislature. There was even a protest in support of the governor. The “corrupt bastards club” is at it again.

August 10th 2009
Anchorage Daily News

((((”The Alaska Legislature voted Monday to override former Gov. Sarah Palin’s veto of $28 million in federal stimulus money for energy cost relief. But it was as close as a vote can get.))))”

((((”About 150 anti-stimulus protesters showed up to try to convince the Legislature not to override Palin’s stimulus veto. They rallied across the street from the Egan Center —with signs like “Fed $=Tyranny” and “Override=You’re fired.” Others urging legislators to override the veto mixed in with their own signs like “Efficiency Makes Cents.” There was arguing between the two camps and legislators had to walk a gantlet through the protesters to get into the Egan Center, where the special session was being held.))))”

http://www.adn.com/2009/08/10/893955/legislature-overrides-palins-stimulus.html


55 posted on 09/05/2011 7:37:24 AM PDT by ak267
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To: LibLieSlayer
Your answer to the first question might be technically true, although I suspect it varies from state to state, it seems to me that it is more the responsibility of a given state's U.S. Congressman and the state's own legislature to accept or reject Federal dollars than the governor.

I may be wrong about that or you may just see it differently.

56 posted on 09/05/2011 7:37:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Lakeshark

I prefer the tearm “PerryKrishnas”


57 posted on 09/05/2011 7:38:59 AM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267
Ahhhh, she vetoed it but her veto was overidden by the legislature.

Nicely supporting my point in post #56.

58 posted on 09/05/2011 7:40:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: ak267
Ahhhh, she vetoed it but her veto was overidden by the legislature. There was even a protest in support of the governor.

She vetoed $24 million out of $850 million.

You make me laugh.

59 posted on 09/05/2011 7:40:57 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: kayak42

“Perry isn’t perfect, but at least he has been able to handle the job of governor of a large state for 10 years. Palin couldn’t handle a really small state for half her term.”

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Not perfect? He has taken a state that has everything and through his overspending, reliance on the federal government and crony capitalism, it is now facing a $31 billion deficit. He has doubled state spending and tripled the debt. Not perfect?

Palin’s state is awash in cash, with a $3.4 billion dollar surplus and $12 billion in reserves (larger than Texas’ nine billion dollar fund, which will be exhausted to plug the current hole, since there are no more federal funds) Alaska’s unemployment rate is 7.7%, well below the national average, and well below Texas’ 8.4% unemployment.

Palin did more in 31 months as Alaska governor than Perry has done in a decade, passing ACES to force the oil companies to drill the state leases and to pay the owners (under the Alaska constitution, that would be the people) their royalties. Now the oil companies are awash in profits as well. She got the natural gas pipeline started, a project that was stalled for 20 years before she got there, by passing AGIA. This will be yet another boon for the state. And she cut spending in actual dollars from 11.7 billion (Murkowski’s 2007 budget) to 10.57 billion ( her last 2010 budget), a reduction of 9.5%. In 31 months. She did everything she promised in her 2006 campaign and probably put in more hours working in 31 months than has Rick Perry during his decade in the governor’s mansion.

Rather than take a pay check to bat down ethics charges fueled by the Obama administrations’s fear of her, she resigned, went south and was the driving force behind the TEA party’s smashing victory, the largest in 75 years...63 House seats, six senate seats, numerous governors (including your boy)

Perry continues to collect his 150K year salary and all the fringe benefits which he runs around the country campaigning as Texas’s budget crisis hits home.

Not perfect? Yes he is...perfectly deplorable.


60 posted on 09/05/2011 7:42:22 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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