Posted on 08/04/2011 5:08:51 AM PDT by scottfactor
Wouldn't the 'usual suspects' howl at that!
Everyone needs some skin in the game: dump the current income tax, go to a retail sales tax which exempts primary housing, food, home-use energy, and medical care.
Then they can get a clue why we are griping.
One or possibly two major differences. First, the failure to approve the supercommittee recommendations will trigger a broad based sequester of defense and non-defense funds, and second, some writers/analysts like the author at the top of this thread think the committee could originate and send to the House and Senate legislation that is unrelated to the original financial savings mission. That legislation would be subject to the same protections against amendment and the normal committee process and require an up or down vote by both bodies.
Okay. Thanks.
It's just another base-closing commission.
I reckon we’ll see.
I don’t think it’s unconstitutional. All tax and spending bills will still have to be approved by Congress. And if Congress legislates to limit debate (and not allow a filibuster on) the proposal that comes out of the commission, then that’s fine and dandy, since each house gets to set its own rules and they each agreed to change them for this particular issue. This is similar to the base-closing commission, which was empowered by Congress to make recommendations, which were subject to approval by both houses on an up-or-down vote.
“the failure to approve the supercommittee recommendations will trigger a broad based sequester of defense and non-defense funds”
Those broad-based cuts were already approved by both houses of Congress in the bill that was signed into law this week. The commission merely will make a recommendation to Congress that will replace the apprved across-the-board cuts with other cuts, which will be subject to an up-or-down vote in both houses.
True, but it is a 6 of one 1/2 dozen of another situation. This is the IED to try and force committee consensus and is an integral part of the super committee mechanism.
Let them howl. We should have been howling years ago when the Communists began their takeover of our schools and media. Nobody howled and those that did were ridiculed, think McCarthy, and we ignorantly carried on as if there were no threat. We find ourselves today with one of our parties completely in the hands of socialists, at best, or communists, and the other heavily infiltrated. We, the people, are being called terrorists because we want our country and its rules back. Please pray often for our country as we are in very perilous times and we will need God on our side to get through them.
In theory if in late 2012 this lame Duck House decides to debate the recommendations and add amendments to it and send that to the Senate (contrary to this bills requirements) the trigger cuts kicks in, but this trigger is just another delayed (conditional) budget law that was passed into law now. Nothing stops the House, Senate and POTUS to pass another law replacing the trigger at any time short political reality.
Obama plans to seize power just like Hitler in 1933 . . .
He and Hillary are great fans of Hitler, but would anyone listen prior to his election? Nope! Now they will suffer along with the rest of us.
The Supreme Soviet has spoken, all else is just for show.
The points you raise about the Super-Committee being abused to circumvent the normal process of republican government in order to force unpopular legislation through Congress is a great threat to the Republic as well. This Super-Committee seems somewhat reminiscent of the old Politburo of the Central Committee of the Soviet Union.
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