Posted on 07/31/2011 7:54:54 PM PDT by Right Wingnut 2
I don’t like the part about NOT eliminating obamacare. That is the one thing we absolutely must stop in it’s tracks. I’m not happy that even conservatives are not mentioning the health care nation-killer any more. Are they just going to let it become permanent? If so, we are done as a nation.
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Senator Russ Johnson (R-WI) sounded quite negative, and he’s not a total Tea Partier. If he doesn’t like it, I’m thinking it’s a bad deal
Give or take 98%.
Seriously though, Boehner and the GOP caucus did get what they wanted. They made it clear from day one that the main thing they were after was a two to three TRILLION dollar increase in their ability to borrow and spend, same as Obama. All the bickering has only been over who gets what political cover.
I'm thinking that they aren't realizing that in fact, though, to every American with a brain and eyeballs, they are ALL standing buck naked.
Shoot, I'm even hearing the usually politically ignorant pronouncing a pox on both their houses in the coffee shops.
I sent a “VOTE NO!” email to my rep already.
NOTHING on the front end makes this a no-go. minimum $100 billion in the first year...
....bear in mind, these are not "cuts" as one would normally use the word in English...they are reductions in the RATE of government growth.
In MY HOUSE, when we do a "cut" it means we spend LESS than the previous year. It's the same in your house and in every business in the USA.
We should assume ALL politicians are Socialists, until they prove otherwise.
My tally is that approximately 526 congressmen and senators have either through votes or stated support come in on the side of borrowing and spending an additional two to three TRILLION dollars.
Nine have refused to support raising the debt ceiling.
Give or take a couple, maybe. But the bottom line is that almost all have sided AGAINST We the People and our posterity.
Doesn’t Boehner drink?
Doesn’t Boehner think of Pelosi as a friend?
Don’t we think Boehner should be replaced as Speaker?
Have you seen any information on just how much is cut next year? I heard Rep Chaffetz say on TV that the cuts next year are 4B?
Next year is all that matters. Anything past that can and will be changed.
So, basically, Boehner and McConnell land the rest of the GOP just handed Obama 2400B in exchange for Obama handing them 4B back and promising them a meaningless vote on a BBA. In fact, a vote that will help dems. Some of these red state dems like Nelson, McCaskill, Tester will now vote yes to pretend like they care knowing the whole time it won’t get the 67 needed. According to my math Obama 2400-4 is 2396. So Obama comes out $2,396,000,000,000 ahead of where he was this morning. Not too shabby for a day’s work. The GOP got cuts that = less than 1/4 of 1% of the total new spending they just authorized. Way to go, guys. It’s like if someone offered to give you $100 in exchange for a nickel. Obama ends up getting more than 99% of what he wanted.
And that’s just what we know now. Just wait until a couple weeks from now when we find out the real truth like we did back in April over the CR deal and how Boehner’s unprecedented 38B in cuts ended up being 350M in cuts. When all is said and done we’ll be lucky to get 1B in cuts next year.
This was just frustrating. Not one time in anyone in GOP leadershp stand up and call Obama and the dems out on their lies about the Aug 2 date and the default. Not once did anyone say “there won’t be a default, they’re all lying to you, and they know it”. Not once did anyone really explain the whole baseline budgeting deal and how now actual spending is being cut, we’re just increasing spending by a slightly lesser amount. Not once did anyone say “time is up, we’re out of money, the spending stops now”.
Not once did anyone take a stand and demand an end to it.
To get up and say as PM Thatcher once did:
if spending money like water was the answer to our country’s problems, we would have no problems now. If ever a nation has spent, spent, spent and spent again, ours has. Today that dream is over. All of that money has got us nowhere but it still has to come from somewhere. Those who urge us to relax the squeeze, to spend yet more money indiscriminately in the belief that it will help the unemployed and the small businessman, are not being kind or compassionate or caring. They are not the friends of the unemployed or the small business. They are asking us to do again the very thing that caused the problems in the first place. We have made this point repeatedly.
Just a huge missed opportunity.
I am disgusted by the boychild and his ilk but I do not want things to get any worse in this country....we all have children or grandchildren or nieces and nephews that NEED for America to work...
“So.... what did we get from this deal??”
It appears we got the shaft, oh and the Gang of 12. Well off to Costco to stockpile more food. Its going to be a long and dreary Depression.
No offense, but I don’t believe Boehner is good enough to get 98% of what he wants.
Unless he’s really a RINO. Or what he was asking for was about 90% less than what I would have been asking for.
Oh yeah?
It really is too late in any case. Boner thinks he can get the Ministry of Truth to stop accusing him of being a terrorist or some such. The real truth is there ain’t any more money. So they only had two choices and one of them was inconceivable to any of the Beltway Elite, actually spending less money. So we are of to Zimbabwe style hyperinflation. 14 Trillion may seem like a big number today. You will be able to put it in a parking meter I two years...
He is not dumb, he just corrupted as the rest except those fresh men.
Learn the magic new verb: “to Primary”
They think we are as stupid as they are.
No exceptions.
YEAH! He got 98% but the 2% was the only part that
Odumba wanted. Raise the limit PAST the 2012 elections
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