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'Irrefutable' proof of Obama forgery
WND ^ | July 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/18/2011 4:28:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: Mr. K
Any one have that on video or audio or a contemporary transcript?

I believe there is. I think I used to have a link to it. (I'll see if I can find it again.)

181 posted on 07/19/2011 3:02:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: El Sordo
So how’s that working out for you?

Everybody needs a pastime. So far i'm kicking @ss!

182 posted on 07/19/2011 3:05:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: Mr. K
Nope. And you'll never see one.

Why?

Well some people will tell you that it's because Obama scrubbed that out of existence, even going so far as to hack into private computers to remove it, and has intimidated Keyes into silence. And replaced the videos and transcripts with ones that do not show him ever saying that.

Or you can understand that it never actually happened and that is why Keyes, the video and the transcripts do not support that claim.

183 posted on 07/19/2011 3:06:19 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“I recall reading...”

Probably. But you don’t seem to have investigated whether or not it actually happened.


184 posted on 07/19/2011 3:08:20 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“So far i’m kicking @ss!”

Well, if you say so. But I have to say that you certainly dont’ seem to have made any progress.


185 posted on 07/19/2011 3:10:39 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Mr. K
Any one have that on video or audio or a contemporary transcript?

This may be where I saw that bit of information. There are also people on the internet claiming that the story is false, so at this point I will put it in the ambiguous category.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/21/2nd-witness-to-obama-admission-in-keyes-vs-obama-2004-debate/

186 posted on 07/19/2011 3:21:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: Mr. K
Another link, same source.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/15/obama-concedes-hes-not-a-nbc-in-obama-vs-keyes-2004-debate/

187 posted on 07/19/2011 3:22:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
What do you think of the teaching profession?

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but my mother was a teacher, so tread carefully.

Coarser pixels are "De-optimized." Not "Optimized. Under no circumstances does it make sense to coarsen the resolution. None.

Sure it does. If you're optimizing for file size, reducing resolution is one way to achieve that. From Adobe's Help page on optimizing options:

Downsample Reduces file size by lowering the resolution of images, which involves merging the colors of original pixels into larger pixels.
Note: Masked images and images with a size less than 16-by-16 pixels are not downsampled.
The question is whether some optimization procedures can do that certain parts of a scan while leaving other parts at a higher resolution. I think one explanation for the "layers" in the document was that they were caused by a mask, so maybe that's why the characters aren't downsampled.
188 posted on 07/19/2011 3:22:54 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: El Sordo
Probably. But you don’t seem to have investigated whether or not it actually happened.

And that is why I used a qualifier. The links I have provided will have to be accepted on the credibility of their source. I make no claim to first hand knowledge of this.

189 posted on 07/19/2011 3:25:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: El Sordo
Well some people will tell you that it's because Obama scrubbed that out of existence, even going so far as to hack into private computers to remove it, and has intimidated Keyes into silence. And replaced the videos and transcripts with ones that do not show him ever saying that.

I have personally met Alan Keyes, and It is my impression that no one is going to silence him on anything. He would have made a far better Senator Or President than the man-child we have now.

Or you can understand that it never actually happened and that is why Keyes, the video and the transcripts do not support that claim.

It may be a false claim, but until it is rebutted by someone who knows, dismissing it out of hand is foolish. I used to be a member of BAMPAC. Perhaps I could get an answer from Keyes himself. I'll see if I can contact his office about it.

190 posted on 07/19/2011 3:32:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: El Sordo
Probably. But you don’t seem to have investigated whether or not it actually happened.

So we are on an even footing in that regard. :) I at least qualified my statement. You on the other hand, are vehemently certain.

191 posted on 07/19/2011 3:35:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: El Sordo
Well, if you say so. But I have to say that you certainly dont’ seem to have made any progress.

You can lead the ignorant to knowledge but you can't make them drink.

192 posted on 07/19/2011 3:37:35 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: PA-RIVER
No computer or pro type setter will vouch for this thing. None.

How about an expert on manual typewriters?

"Typography" is an ambiguous term. Most often it relates to the arrangement of type for printing, not to the study of typewriters and their typescripts. An "expert in typography" could be a forensic consultant, but might be -- more likely would be -- somebody who produced and knew much about printed, as opposed to typed documents.

Nowadays everybody wants to play CSI, but was Paul Irey really a forensic document analyst or FBI typewriter consultant or just a guy who worked with type for printing? Judging from his analysis I suspect he's the latter.

Irey does mention the IBM Selectric in his analyses, but that typewriter only came out a few days before Obama presumably was born and would not have been used. It doesn't look like Irey knows or cares much about manual typewriters and their quirks.

One thing noted in the blogs: Irey is working from that black and white (or black on gray) graphic. This is already a scan or copy of a copy and the letters are bound to be a bit coarser and less defined than they are in the black on green graphic (or in the original). Depending on the resolution of the various graphics involved what he comes up with is bound to be different from any "original" document.

193 posted on 07/19/2011 3:45:05 PM PDT by x
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but my mother was a teacher, so tread carefully.

Apples are popular in the Educational system. They are, of course, not exclusive to them.

Sure it does. If you're optimizing for file size, reducing resolution is one way to achieve that.

Complaint from Pilot:- #2 propeller seeping prop fluid.
Reply from Mechanic: -#2 propeller seepage normal.
Subsequent Complaint from Pilot:-#1, #3 and #4 propellers lack normal prop seepage.

Letters "B","A","C" and "K" lack normal Optimization.

194 posted on 07/19/2011 3:58:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: vanilla swirl
You have to to convince the voters that “ rule of law” matters.

Step one would be convincining them he wasn't born here. The problem is nobody wants to believe that.

You gotta get past that part first before you worry about the "rule of law".

195 posted on 07/19/2011 4:04:12 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Federalist Society

Yeah. I agree. The Bin Laden killing was fishy in so many ways. I still don’t believe it, or at the very least the timing was something they had control of.


196 posted on 07/19/2011 4:05:55 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Absolutely certain.

And also absolutely correct.


197 posted on 07/19/2011 4:28:53 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Apples are popular in the Educational system. They are, of course, not exclusive to them.

Oh, okay. They're also popular in the graphic arts and printing, which is where I first got to like them (and why I'm comfortable discussing pixels and resolution).

Letters "B","A","C" and "K" lack normal Optimization.

Like I said before, the 'R' wasn't read as a letter. For whatever reason--probably because it was lighter than the other letters--it was read as part of the background, like a gray smudge, and downsampled along with the rest of it.

198 posted on 07/19/2011 4:36:29 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Why is that hard to understand? From my perspective, The Governor is ignorant of the Federal issue involved, and places the state laws of her state in higher regard. In fact, it is not the Governor’s job to insure compliance with Article II for an Election. That job falls to each State’s election officials, who are ALSO incredibly ignorant of their responsibility in this regard. The Governor’s job *IS* to enforce the laws of their state. If according to the laws of their state they are supposed to accept whatever the bureaucracy asserts, then that’s what they will do.

All of this belies the point of why we allow the Tail of Hawaiian bureaucracy to wag the Dog of American Constitutional law!”

I know of no court in any state nor any federal court which has ruled that state officials in any state failed to uphold state or federal law with regard to Article II, Section 1 eligibility.

Constitution Party candidate Alan Keyes sued Governor Lingle and Hawaii’s Chief Elections Official, Kevin Cronin in Keyes v Lingle and made the argument that Obama’s Hawaii COLB was forged. He included an affidivit with a forensic analysis of the COLB but the Hawaii courts dismissed the lawsuit.

Leo Donofrio also made that claim in New Jersey and in Connecticut and appeals went all the way to the US Supreme Court (Donofrio v Wells (NJ) and Wrotnowski v Bysiewicz (CN)). Obama eligibility attorney Gary Kreep made the same argument in California in “Keyes v Bowen” which went all the way to the US Supreme Court but was rejected.


199 posted on 07/19/2011 5:47:35 PM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Is it too much to ask that an Article of the Constitution should outweigh the privacy law of a state? Be Honest.”

Yes, it’s too much to ask because Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution carries just as much weight as Article II, Section 1. And so does the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution.

And besides, Hawaii’s privacy laws allow for a confidential birth record to be inspected or obtained via “a court order from a court of competent jurisdiction.”


200 posted on 07/19/2011 6:00:28 PM PDT by jh4freedom
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