Posted on 07/18/2011 4:28:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters
Right, it's so much fun to discuss things with someone who posts assertions and calls them facts.
FACT: There is disagreement over what constitutes a natural born citizen. Even if people saw an "original" birth certificate that showed he was born exactly when, where, and to whom he claims, some would say he's still not an NBC. And maybe that part is easy--but who is he supposed to give that proof to? You? Me? The Chief Justice, who seemed fine with swearing him in?
FACT: Some people claim they're forgeries. Their case isn't all that strong. It's far from a "fact" that they are forgeries, just because WND trots out a new expert every day to claim they are. (In "fact," they seem to be running out of "experts.") It's funny, the way the same people who claim that an image posted on the Internet isn't proof of anything, are willing to say at the same time they have absolute proof it's a forgery.
Thanks. Like you, I'll meet civility with civility.
I cannot comprehend how something which is designed to recognize characters (a useless function when making a copy of something)
Not so useless if you were making an electronic copy of something you later wanted to search for by text within it. Scanners for document archiving can add an invisible text layer to a PDF document for that purpose. It's possible that feature was on by default in whatever software was used to scan the BC, even though in this case it wouldn't be needed (and would have saved a lot of trouble if it had been turned off). Again, without knowing what scanner and software were used, and how, this has to be just speculation.
Either the OCR didn't recognize it as the same character, or it didn't behave consistently. If there *IS* a theory of software that explains this, I would like to hear it.
The answer would be (I think) that the OCR didn't recognize the first 'R' as an R, and so left it part of the background--i.e., it didn't try to extract and "read" it--probably because it was more gray than black. In the second instance, though, it grouped it with the text rather than with the background.
Yep! It's such a clever plan that Gallup reports that **more** than half the nation doesn't believe Obama was born in the U.S. and this poll was in May, after Obama posted his forgeries.
It's soooooo clever that it will keep those ticked off Republicans in their homes on election day.
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FACT: IT IS A SIMPLE MATTER TO PROVE ONE”S NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP IN A PROMPT AND STRAIGHT FORWARD MANNER USING THE VERY BEST, CERTIFIABLE, and CERTIFIED EVIDENCE! ( Yeah! I am shouting!)
Fact: Obama posted crap! (and I believe you know that).
Show how scanning makes similar distortions, that sounds very unlikely to me.
FACT: 65% in the Gallup poll said Obama was "definitely" or "probably" born in the U.S. That's almost two-thirds. Two-thirds is more than half. Sorry.
Only 13% said he "definitely" or "probably" wasn't born here.
only 47 percent of those surveyed say they think Obama “definitely” was born in the United States.
Read more: Gallup: Most still question Obama’s birth http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=298501#ixzz1SVD2loCi
Imagine. More than half of the nation can NOT say with certainty that the occupant of the White House is a natural born citizen. How can that possibly be good for Obama or the nation?
This was reported May 11 th. Now that it is known that Obama’s postings are forgeries, that number has likely grown.
So the forger was an idiot? Given a document that might have had a half-dozen or a dozen "A's" in it he or she goes out of the way to get one from another document that doesn't match up? Given two "n's" or "e's" right next to each other in one document, the forger goes to a wholly different document produced on a wholly different typewriter to get the two letters?
I'm looking at the father's first name on the jpeg and I don't see any significant difference between the first and second "A's" in the graphic at the size of a typed document. If you want to magnify it to twice the size, you may notice differences, but they aren't visible to the naked eye.
Understand too that the document would have been bound in a book and that may account for a slight deformity in the letter. Take a look at the small case "a's" in ""male" and "Kapiolani": they are in about the same position on the document as the first "A" in father's name "Barack" and may be a little different from the other "a's" in other positions, because the bend in the document due to the binding affects the two dimensional computer graphic produced from a three dimensional book. If you've ever compared a flat map to a globe, you'll understand.
There's something incredibly stupid here, and I don't think it's the forger. Cursi magnifies manually typed letters something like ten times and notes the differences. Of course there are differences -- it's not a computer printed document and pressure and the amount of ink on the type gives the letters slightly different appearances. Magnify the letters a dozen times and those differences are bound to look enormous.
What's more likely: that a forger couldn't get two "A's" or two "n's" typed by the same typewriter on the same document or that Corsi is simply magnifying ordinary typed letters to the point where they begin to look wildly different?
FACT: IT IS A SIMPLE MATTER TO PROVE ONE”S NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP IN A PROMPT AND STRAIGHT FORWARD MANNER USING THE VERY BEST, CERTIFIABLE, and CERTIFIED EVIDENCE! ( Yeah! I am shouting!)
Fact: Obama posted crap! (and I believe you know that).
WND lumps people who think Obama was "probably" born in the U.S. in with the people who really doubt it. That's typically dishonest WND spin. The fact remains that by far the largest group of respondents say he was definitely born in the U.S., and that percentage went up 9 points after the release of the LFBC. Another 18% say "probably," giving the total of nearly 2/3 of Americans being confident he was born in the U.S. The number that think he was probably born in another country dropped 7 points, to 8%, and the number that think he was definitely born in another country dropped 4 points, to 5%.
So more than 3 times as many people think he was definitely born in the U.S. as question his birth. Five times as many are confident he was born here as have doubts. Your claim that "**more** than half the nation doesn't believe Obama was born in the U.S." is simply false.
“Yeah yeah yeah. Her act of piety would be more convincing if she put those words on the document under the states seal instead of affirming that it is just an “abstract of the record.” Public pronouncements are not perjury.
The actions of the Hawaii DOH belie their words.”
The words that are on certified abstracts or copies of Hawai’ian birth records are: “I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file at the Hawai’i state Department of Health.—signed Alvin T. Onaka, State Registrar.”
A short form Certification of Live Birth(COLB) from Hawai’i is an abstract. A long form Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is a copy.
When the Health Director mentions that “Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies,” that statement is what she is referring to and it is applied via a stamp.
“the issue is dead” gb
GB has spoken!
Hahahaha
So?...How can this be helpful to Obama. Answer: It can't.
Also...This poll is from early May. Also...the news of Obama’s forgeries is getting out, one by one, friend by friend, neighbor by neighbor.
More than half the nation are not certain that the occupant of the White House was born here.
So?...How can this be helpful to Obama. Answer: It can’t.
Also...This poll is from early May. Also...the news of Obama’s forgeries is getting out, one by one, friend by friend, neighbor by neighbor.
Are any of those friends and neighbors judges, prosecutors or members of Congress? That could certainly help in speeding up the process and getting some action.
U. K. L. Lee
sklar
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:36:04 AM by sklar
Post #10 a copy of BC where Mother’s address is a *BARRACKS* wonder why they didn’t just use this as his name when they copy and pasted the letters?
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