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Sarah Palin: Why I support her or do not support her (I may not be the typical Palinista)
July 17, 2011 | techno

Posted on 07/17/2011 8:52:39 PM PDT by techno

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To: arrogantsob

The difference between Reagan and the rest of the politicians, and the neocon theorists, is that when Reagan changed from the Democrat to the Republican party, his positions had been changing from the Democrat to the Republican.

With the neocon, they took their Democrat / Trotsky ideas, and brought them to the Republican Party. They’re still Democrat / Trotsky ideas, except now they’re being called (by a Socialist, Michael Harrington) neo”conservative”. No thanks, let the Democrats keep their own ideas.


81 posted on 07/20/2011 11:27:39 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: arrogantsob

Neocon is an unpopular philosophy. If you’re arguing that the name “neocon” doesn’t sound as bad to voters as “War All The Time”, or “Spread Democracy By Force”, which is the neocon intellectual underpinning of “War All The Time”, you might be right about that.

I will say that the ties between Palin and Kristol are not extremely strong, it’s not like Kristol managed her Mayor of Wasilla campaign.


82 posted on 07/20/2011 11:32:03 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Oh, please stop with the falsehoods and NO I am not arguing anything like you speculate. There aren’t enough people who even know what a neo-con is for it to be unpopular. You couldn’t find one in a hundred who could give you a rational description of what it is including you.

It is NOT “war all the time” nor “spread democracy by force” whatever it is. The only use of the term is as a thinly disguised way of being anti-Semitic for those who talk about it.

Sarah Palin has NOTHING to do with neocon AS I TOLD YOU when you started floating this crap. Never has, never will.


83 posted on 07/21/2011 8:09:37 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: truthfreedom

There are no “neocons” outside the fevered brains of Leftist anti-semites in the media and their followers who hope to divide the Republicans with this false distinction.


84 posted on 07/21/2011 8:12:06 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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the only people on this particular thread are you and me and I’m just repeating the same ... ties to Bill Kristol ... indeterminate nature ... neocon.

And that’s accurate. There are people currently calling Sarah Palin a neocon because of her relationship with Bill Kristol.
I don’t know how many, or how seriously they believe that. I think that people think it’s good she got away from Randy S.


85 posted on 07/21/2011 8:20:36 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Why are you obsessed with something that NEVER was? Palin NEVER had anything to do with this non-existent philosophy which NEVER had anything to do with Republicans.

Only clueless isolationists believe such a thing exists.

NO ONE cares about this fantasy except you. No one has even heard of this Randy. He has less importance than the average FReeper.


86 posted on 07/21/2011 8:31:39 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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Fun Facts about neoconservativism.

1) Irving Kristol, a founder of neoconservativism was an admirer of Trotsky
2) All the early “neoconservatives” were once DEMOCRATS
3) Irving Kristol was on a Hubert Humphrey task force
4) The term “neoconservative” was given to these Democrats by a Socialist, Michael Harrington, after Irving Kristol didn’t like McGovern’s foreign policy and voted for Nixon in 72.
5) Daniel Patrick Moynihan was an Irish Democrat who was considered a “neoconservative”.
6) No one asked Conservative Republicans if they thought that prowar Humphrey Democrats should be called a type of conservative.


87 posted on 07/21/2011 8:40:21 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: arrogantsob

Randy was Palins foreign policy officer for a couple years.
He was considered a neocon. This is common knowledge, not some debatable thing. Use the internet.

276K results about randy mccain neocon palin
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=randy+mccain+neocon+palin&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

I don’t believe that Palin’s ties to the neocons are that strong, or were that strong, and the new advisors are moving her away from neocon.

http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/03/19/sarah-palin-the-end-of-the-affair/
that’s a typical article I’m finding. there are many many more like it.


88 posted on 07/21/2011 8:54:16 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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Scheunemann was MCCAIN’S foreign policy advisor.

Olberman and the anti-Iraq war creeps call him a neo con. And Stormfront.

Nothing I see is worthy of worrying about or considering to be accurate.


89 posted on 07/21/2011 9:15:11 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

Right, and he followed Sarah until just a couple months ago.
Most of McCains staff trashed Sarah, Randy didn’t.

This is common knowledge, I’m surprised that you are unaware that Bill Kristol is a neocon. Maybe you had a brain injury?


90 posted on 07/21/2011 9:34:16 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Harrington’s term had little meaning 40 yrs ago it has NONE now. Kristol is just another vacuous lightweight with no political importance. I don’t really care what you call him and he was never a Trotskyite either.

Randy was probably in kindergarten when the term was coined so he wasn’t a Trotskyite. It was then forgotten until the media (creeps like Olbermann) resurrected it to condemn the Jews supporting the Iraq War who were allegedly having undue influence on Bush. Anyone with a brain knows they did not and sees through that anti-Semitic deception.


91 posted on 07/21/2011 9:52:02 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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There is that tradition. And it’s an unpleasant one.
And I’ll keep bringing it up whenever it suits me.

Usually I compare Robert Taft with Irving Kristol and Trotsky.

I’m not saying that Randy S. himself was pro Trotsky.


92 posted on 07/21/2011 9:54:51 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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