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US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT STATES THAT OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ^ | 06/21/2011 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 06/21/2011 1:55:34 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: butterdezillion; edge919

Bachmann also went into lockstep with Boehner: “If it’s good enough for Hawaii, it’s good enough for me!!!


121 posted on 06/21/2011 11:06:25 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: philman_36

Oh I don’t mind being laughed at because the Obotski do it all the time at me. But it is the other case Wong Kim Ark that is from Arkansas because in law books that is what Ark stands for. Its how you find the right law book or something for example Oklahoma is Okla and California is Cal.


122 posted on 06/21/2011 11:07:15 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Pilsner
A couple of rules to follow, when citing legal precedents. A

1. Don't try to make a case say something that it clearly does not.

2. If you are dishonest enough to violate Rule # 1, don't be so dull witted as to include in your excerpt a line, For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts, that explicitly contradicts the point you are trying to make.

...Minor also raises the issue of whether a person born in a country, to two parents who are not both citizens of that country, is a natural born citizen, and concedes that there is a division of authority on that point, but holds For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts.



Well dull witted Bot join the club. It was that "some authorities" who claimed that people were citizens (born within jurisdiction ) and who were not born to citizen parents - was the open question.


As Donofrio states here again:


"The Minor case has been severely misconstrued in the Arkeny opinion issued by the Indiana Court of Appeals. That court quoted Minor’s natural-born citizen language, then stated:

“Thus, the Court left open the issue of whether a person who is born within the United States of alien parents is considered a natural born citizen.”

False. The Minor Court did not leave that question open. Nowhere in the Minor opinion does it state that the class of persons who are natural-born citizens is an open question. The Arkeny Court has it backwards.

The Supreme Court in Minor stated that the “citizenship” of persons who were not natural born citizens was an open question."

Again, it was the "citizenship" was the open question. That is if they were even citizens of the country let alone natural born citizens.


The Ankeny court was just as 'dull witted' and stupid and/or 'dishonest' as all the stupid OBots who drank their grape Kool-aid.

123 posted on 06/21/2011 11:07:15 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Squeeky
But it is the other case Wong Kim Ark that is from Arkansas because in law books that is what Ark stands for.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG! I can't believe you said that! That's even funnier than your first reply!
Ark is Wong's last name. Kim is his middle name!

You're slaying me!

124 posted on 06/21/2011 11:12:13 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I’ll go look it up but I have never heard of a Chinese person with a name like that. Kim Wong maybe, but Wong Kim Ark sounds really weird for a somebody from there.


125 posted on 06/21/2011 11:16:38 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky; Faith; little jeremiah; MHGinTN
Damn girl! You don't even try to hide!
Squeeky thefogbow.com

How does it feel to be outed? 17, 18 and 19.

126 posted on 06/21/2011 11:21:26 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kleon

By law, Leo means a law passed by Congress and not a precedent set by the Supreme Court in a ruling that interprets the Constitution.

Congress has the power to naturalize citizens. The SCOTUS does not.

In this regard, SCOTUS can interpret the Constitution, its Amendments, and the constitutionality of the naturalization laws. Interpreting which citizens are affected by a law is not an act of naturalization in any sense of the word. (IMHO)


127 posted on 06/21/2011 11:24:56 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Squeeky
I’ll go look it up...
I'll save you the trouble...
United States v. Wong Kim Ark

...in behalf of Wong Kim Ark...
Because the said Wong Kim Ark...

It's littered throughout.

...Wong Kim Ark sounds really weird for a somebody from there.
Now you're just playing stupid.

Because the said Wong Kim Ark, although born in the city and county of San Francisco, State of California, United States of America...

128 posted on 06/21/2011 11:28:00 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
???

The Birther Think Tank

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

Show Me The BirthFAX

Squeeky

129 posted on 06/21/2011 11:29:59 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky
Tell me you're not serious. That's a joke, right?

"Wong Kim Ark" was the full name of the Chinese man about whose citizenship status the SCOTUS was ruling in the case United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

130 posted on 06/21/2011 11:33:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: philman_36

Fogbow slime.


131 posted on 06/21/2011 11:37:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Squeeky
Oh I don’t mind being laughed at because the Obotski do it all the time at me. But it is the other case Wong Kim Ark that is from Arkansas because in law books that is what Ark stands for. Its how you find the right law book or something for example Oklahoma is Okla and California is Cal.

Yeah, you go guuuurl! Heehee...

132 posted on 06/21/2011 11:38:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Squeeky
Yes, I've just been looking at your sites.
The Obotski Hall of Shame – PJFoggy
I used to debate PJFoggy at Gretawire, and he was pretty easy to beat WITH LOGIC.

Given your replies on this thread I don't see how that was possible.

133 posted on 06/21/2011 11:41:00 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
No. I read the case once or twice last year and I always thought it was a Supreme Court Case that started off in Arkansas about a Chinese guy.

Plus, here is another website I just started where I pick up my Birther Think Tank Internet Articles AND stuff about Obama to reach a larger audience.

Obama: The Opaque Years and Beyond

134 posted on 06/21/2011 11:41:05 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: philman_36
Believe it. I used to send him running back to where ever with his little rooster tail between his legs. Plus, when ever he shows up on Gratewire, I spank him some more. The Great Obotski Mein KERPLOP!!! That one started off at Gratewire when PJFoggy pulled the stupid trick on Sharon Rondeau. So, I gave him a Squeeky Smackdown. My goodness, I have been doing this for quite a while, and I even go over and smack the Obots around at Obotski Central. I don't come here much because there aren't any Obots here to beat WITH LOGIC.
135 posted on 06/21/2011 11:46:47 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky
You're so busted!

Obots and Vattel Birthers – The Same Denial of Reality!!!
This occurs because the Vattel Birthers make a really bad fundamental mistake in reasoning. They take this one Supreme Court case back in 1898, Wong Kim Ark, and maintain that this case was decided wrongly, and if only in 1898, the Supreme Court had believed differently, then the Vattel Birthers would be absolutely right.
136 posted on 06/21/2011 11:50:55 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I am NOT a Vattle Birther and NEVER have been. I was a Common Sense Suspicious Birther, and now, I am still writing about the issue in Post-Birther form because the Obots are still lying and trying to pull the same stuff.

But no, I am NOT a Vattle Birther, so you didn’t bust me out about that. I am petty open about it, and if you dig deeper you will see another Internet Article, my first one about Vattle, that I wrote last year.

What, you think somebody had to buy into all that Vattle Prattle to be a Birther??? Not me. And because of that I will have a whole lot more credibility than the Vattle Birthers.


137 posted on 06/21/2011 11:58:13 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky
Vattel Birthers Should Just STFU!!!
The other kind of Birther, the Vattle Birthers, believe that even if...

Now I see why you're on this thread.

138 posted on 06/22/2011 12:00:26 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: butterdezillion; edge919

Butter: I totally agree with you and know how you feel. I feel the same way, and have stopped listening to the radio & TV talking heads!!!

Here’s is someone who feels the same way???

http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=15733


139 posted on 06/22/2011 12:02:48 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: MHGinTN
TRUMP: I wish Trump would come out and start putting public pressure on President Obama to release his Kapiolani Hospital records---if they even exist---- just as he successfully put pressure on Obama to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate.

1. As I see it, the longer Obama waits to release his Kapiolani hospital records, the more votes Obama will lose on election day Nov. 2012, because I believe that VOTERS will start wondering why Obama is playing hardball when it comes to the release of his Kapiolani birth records of Aug. 4, 1961.

2. KAPIOLANI HOSPTAL: If, unbelievably, there are no Kapiolani Hospital Obama records for Aug. 4, 1961, then I say that Kapiolani officials have a MORAL duty to tell us if no Obama records exist for Aug. 4, 1961.

3. NOTE: What is President Obama trying to hide, because as I understand it, Obama's hospital records probably contain routine information that we see on the Obama long form birth certificate that Obama already released to the public on April 27, 2011?

4. However, while it is very impoortant to see Kapiolani's name on Obama's long form birth certificate, it is even more important for Kapiolani officials to come out publicly and verify that, yes, it is Obama's birth hospital and that they have permission from President Obama to allow reporters to examine Obama's birth record for Aug. 4, 1961.

5. The only thing I can think of as to why Kapiolani officials are CONSPICUOUSLY silent on this Obama long form birth certificate issue is this: Obama was never born at Kapiolani Hospital as is claimed on Obama's long form birth certificate that Obama released on April 27, 2011 to great public fanfare at a White House press confeence.

6. My point is this: If Kapiolani officials have not released Obama's birth records by election day Nov. 2012, or if Kapiolani officials have not come out and verified that Obama was or was not a patient there on Aug. 4, 1961 by election day 2012, then I believe that Obama will lose a lot of votes on election day Nov. 2012 that he won on election day Nov. 2008.

7. TRUMP: Yes, I wish that Trump would come out and start putting pressure on President Obama to let reporters examine his Kapiolani birth records for Aug. 4, 1961.

140 posted on 06/22/2011 12:04:11 AM PDT by john mirse
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