Posted on 05/21/2011 7:36:13 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
Name recognition among Republicans
Palin - 96%
Cain - 29%
No, Cain is not well known enough to make a case that he’s the top Republican.
It really isn’t “famous”. Trump was “famous”. The candidate needs to be of a stature that he or she can stand up there and say “I am the top Republican” and it could be believed by many.
“If Herman Cain is the top Republican, how come I only vaguely know who he is, and I had no idea who he was a year ago” is what the people who would keep Cain from winning would say.
I’m not saying to Cain, or any of these “not top” candidates, not to run. If you want to become President, you have to get famous somehow. And running for President in the present helps you win in the future.
Cain I think does have the resume to take the top RINO spot from Romney and Gingrich. That’s where any possibility of victory comes in. Palin romps, or begins the romp, almost everyone else drops out, but Cain can be antiPalin instead of Romney or Gingrich (or any of the unknowns that no one at all cares about). And Ron Paul could keep going as well if he chose to do so. In a 3 way race, with Palin, Paul, Cain, Palin would likely just zoom through. But some awful collapse, some scandal, some outstandingly major blunder could possibly derail Palin at just the right time to benefit Cain and or Paul.
West feels like I do...in this article. Tea Party congressman underwhelmed by current Republican presidential field
There was a rumor that he would be Trump's VP. I think he felt about Trump like we all did that he at least was trying to go above the fray and say what was needed to be said. The Romneyite candidates are all career politicians afraid to rock the boat and they are all too PC.
The power of the MSM has people thinking no one can beat Obama. But this is so,so dire serious that Obama gets un elected that we have no room to mess up and I truly don't know if Palin could pull of what is most important-the independent vote. I think Cain could maybe but he would have to cancel out Paul.
There was a poll out showing that only 29% of Republicans know who he is...but the same poll showed that 25% had a favorable opinion.
Which means that among those who know of him, his approval rating is 86.2% - which is astounding!
So basically, anything that builds his name recognition builds his poll numbers.
If Palin doesn’t run, Cain stands to be the last conservative man standing.
Bachmann may well run but I don’t think she’ll gain as much traction, and Romney, Pawlenty, and Daniels (and Newt) will siphon off votes from each other.
Ron Paul won’t break 5%.
Result: Solid plurality for Cain.
Who is that who thinks that Obama will win in November 2012 if the economy is anywhere near as bad as it is now.?
I guess I don’t watch much MSM.
I’m not sure you really can say “like we all did” about our feelings about Trump. Enjoyed getting the BC issue on the TV. Did not take Trump seriously.
Independent? Cancelling out Ron Paul?
Palin will do great with Indies. She’ll do substantially better than McCain with rural, younger, more lower middle class, women.
If there is a problem with indies and Palin, that problem would show up before the Republican Primary is over, and it would manifest itself in something that makes many Republicans not want to vote for her. Republicans won’t be liking something that Indies don’t like.
Indies do not hold political opinions right in the middle between Ds and Rs. Some Indies might be Constitutionalists, or Libertarians, or Greens. Some are conservative, some moderate, some liberal.
And “moderates” aren’t necessarily. They might be of below average intelligence, and might not think about politics very much. There might be something about Palin that just appeals to them. They might not even understand “what makes a Republican a RINO”. Palin’s likeable. That’s good for points in November 2012. She, using her likeability, makes the case for conservativism, people buy into that.
The recent Gallup has, according to my fixing their numbers,
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147584/Huckabee-No-Clear-GOP-Front-Runner.aspx
Palin at #1 with 22% Strongly Favorable
Bachmann at #2 with 14.5% Strongly Favorable
Gingrich and Romney, 3 and 4 with 14%.
Ron Paul at #5 with 10%
Everyone else below. That’s 3 out of the top 5 conservatives, and Cain is likely to be breaking out of the Pawlenty / Daniels tier. Some polls have that happening already. So, who knows?
I’d like to see Cain keep focusing on his excellent elite establishment credentials that the country club RINO class of Republican like so much.
Take the Country Club Republican slot, and get that to an establishment conservative (like Cain) instead of a RINO.
No, you’re misreading it.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147584/Huckabee-No-Clear-GOP-Front-Runner.aspx
The poll is skewed to hide Palin’s advantages.
25% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HEARD OF CAIN have a strongly favorable opinion.
Here’s the equation, to get the idea of what his real strongly favorable numbers are.
Name Recognition (x) of those who know, who strongly like = percentage of who strongly like.
Palin - .96 x 23 = 22.06% - 22.06% of ALL Republicans strongly like Palin
Cain - .29 x 25 = 7.25% - 7.25% of ALL Republicans strongly like Cain
Cain is about where Pawlenty is. Palin is 1st.
ron paul in 2008
iowa - 10%
NH - 8%
nevada - 14%
maine - 18%
alaska - 17%
minnesota - 16%
montana - 25%
north dakota - 21%
kansas - 11%
washington - 22%
pennsylvania - 16%
nebraska - 13%
oregon - 15%
idaho - 24%
This was before the tea party, before Obama showed us how bad too much Fed Gov was, before 4 years of TV appearances, before his son was elected tea party conservative republican senator. But he’s 4 years older. But his organization has done a lot to get organized. They’re no longer just enthusiastic, a lot of them are trained and savvy. And a lot of them have been joining the party apparatus at a local level. So, I see him doing better than last time. How much more, I don’t know. And a lot has to do with Palin of course. It would seemingly be difficult for Paul to pick up a lot of new people with Palin in there. Paul has had a good 4 years, but so has Palin.
“Condi Rice is famous enough.”
Condi blows.
She is a do nothing,token negro.
Will never excel past the appointment made by Bush.
Plays the piano and is knowledgeable on Russian history.
Might even score well on Jeopardy./S
But is famous enough. I don’t think we need more conservatives in the race (well, Palin). It isn’t the conservatives who are dissatisfied with the choices this time around. The RINOs are either falling apart or aren’t famous enough to make it.
If you’re looking around for potential “top” Republicans, you’re going to find a lot of candidates that are almost as bad as Romney. Condi Rice is just one. Here’s a list
Age on election day 2012
Condi Rice 57
Dan Quayle 65
Arnold Schwarzenegger 65
Steve Forbes 65
Tom Ridge 67
Lamar Alexander 72
Pat Buchanan 74
Colin Powell 75
Elizabeth Dole 76
Re:Obama winning. Gas prices are going down slowly because of ONE thing the republican bill to stop Obama from freezing drilling. Oil prices dropped. Gas prices are slowly going down America is stupid they will think Obama did this.
The dem strategy of the moment is using Newt in a commercial saying even Newt thinks Ryan’s budget will kill granny. Obama can’t fake NO JOBS AND the economy but if the GOP does anything good Obama will take full credit.
As far as Palin and the independents take the rosey glasses off it ain’t there.
The incumbent wins if the economy is good, loses if bad.
No head scratching is needed about Palin, independents, etc.
If the economy is bad (unemployment anywhere near what it is now) Palin beats Obama.
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