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Ron Paul's Lapses Give Libertarianism a Bad Rap
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Posted on 05/16/2011 6:56:14 AM PDT by mnehring

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To: joe fonebone

I have a family member who is a big Ron Paul supporter. His Facebook avatar is the anarchists symbol. Love the cousin, but recognize he is a Looney Tune on politics.

Quite frankly I agree with Paul on some issues but his nutty followers are a real turn-off.


21 posted on 05/16/2011 8:14:47 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Captain Kirk

Your blind allegiance makes you ignore facts? Paul was one of 3 Republicans to vote for it.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/12/02/dems-screw-the-wealth-producers-bill-passes-pelosi-gloats/

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2010/12/02/three-republicans-vote-for-pelosis-chicken-crap-tax-bill/

Even 33 Dems voted against this tax hike stunt by Pelosi but Paul and two others joined with the majority of Dems on this.


22 posted on 05/16/2011 8:16:45 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Captain Kirk
"Descent into anarchy? Ron Paul is against anarchism"

I call bullshit on this one.

They guys who sits next to me typifies Paulhroids. He loves Ron Paul and Alex Jones. He relentlessly proselytizes both. I went off on him Friday after he pushed too far. Like your local liberal, Paulhriods cannot help themselves by echoing their wacked out views to everyone, even at work. Worse is the fact that Ron Paul's Paulhriods are dangerous. I would not want anyone of them behind me, anywhere. When you start questioning Paulhroids on their core non-beliefs, you realize that they ARE anarchists. I cannot repeat some of the things this Paulhroid next to me has said about Gabby Giffords, the Obamas and others.

Paulhroids are dangerous both mentally and physically.

23 posted on 05/16/2011 8:22:48 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: sigzero

You assume that Pakistan didn’t know.


24 posted on 05/16/2011 8:30:36 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Captain Kirk

NRO:
Final tally: 234-188.
20 Democrats voted no.
3 Republicans voted yes.
The three Republicans were Ron Paul, Walter Jones, and Jimmy Duncan.


25 posted on 05/16/2011 8:35:42 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Captain Kirk

I guess this is not really pandering:
Political Grapevine:
Pet Projects
Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul — who is campaigning as a critic of congressional overspending — has revealed that he is requesting $400 million worth of earmarks this year.
The Wall Street Journal reports Paul’s office says those requests include $8 million for the marketing of wild American shrimp and $2.3 million to pay for research into shrimp fishing.


26 posted on 05/16/2011 8:38:48 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: svcw

No...I was playing the advocate. They have said they didn’t know and we have said we didn’t tell them.


27 posted on 05/16/2011 8:39:58 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: Captain Kirk

Second source:
Houston Chronicle, Ron Paul:
...leads the Houston-area delegation in the number of earmarks, or special funding requests, that he is seeking for his district. He is trying to nab public money for 65 projects, such as marketing wild shrimp and renovating the old movie theater in Edna that closed in 1977 — neither of which is envisioned in the Constitution as an essential government function.


28 posted on 05/16/2011 8:40:44 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: svcw

The rationale that Paulhroids have for why Ron Paul accepts pork money is so convoluted, I will not try to explain.


29 posted on 05/16/2011 8:41:08 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: lormand; svcw

Their rationale for pork is similar to the rationale they used when he co-sponsored T-Boone’s ‘green car’ boondogle recently- it is just returning money to the taxpayer...

Yea right.. like welfare is returning money to the taxpayer..

It is just another redistribution scheme giving more power to the government for whatever social engineering program they are trying at the time. “Reward”(sic) people for government approved behavior.


30 posted on 05/16/2011 8:50:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: joe fonebone
Titles can be confusing and/or deceiving. I think it's my choice to wear or not wear helmets and seat belts. Ditto, what I eat. I also think I'm capable of observing a rural intersection is clear at 2 AM and can cautiously proceed against a red light. That does not make me libertarian. As you pointed out, believing a large complex population--or even a small group-- can exist without government (structure) is pure nonsense. Anarchy would be the inevitable result. Then, guess what, a "government" would form within the competing factions. A few people always emerge in a vacuum to guide the follower majority. That's the way it is and must be to have an orderly society. I've always looked on doctrinaire libertarians as sly Marxists. You just know the brightest and sliest of the type will wind up governing the libertarian mob. Just as Marxism preaches equality, the leaders are always more equal.
31 posted on 05/16/2011 9:10:26 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Captain Kirk

So how do you explain LRon’s unwillingness to take out bin Laden as well as his recent pro amnesty comments?


32 posted on 05/16/2011 12:45:08 PM PDT by DangerZone
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To: mnehring

sigh.....these Ron Paul threads are not as busy as they used to be. We are victims of our own success I suppose.


33 posted on 05/17/2011 7:21:56 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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