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WE MUST NOT ABANDON THE ELIGIBILITY WAR
Dean C. Haskins | 05/07/2011 | Dean C. Haskins

Posted on 05/07/2011 12:07:13 AM PDT by Music Producer

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To: bluefin

“...The greater good...”

I’ve always thought that is the primary reason so many put distance between themselves and this topic. If he WAS found ineligible, then what, does it then nullify everything he’s signed. I’m not asking....
Just pointing out the obvious nightmare.

Bottom line is regardless of merit, the battle, if won, would probably cause more harm than good. IMHO.


41 posted on 05/08/2011 8:27:33 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Music Producer

“If what you contend were true, the framers would have had no reason to include the grandfather clause exempting themselves from the NBC requirement.”

The grandfather clause wasn’t to allow George Washington to run. It was there to open the door to people who had immigrated and then risked their lives to found the new country.

The original draft of the Constitution had no NBC clause at all - just a residency one. And a number of the Founders argued against a birth clause, saying the people could decide for themselves if an individual candidate was qualified.

The grandfather clause was for someone like Alexander Hamilton, who helped put the clause into the Constitution. The original draft of the Constitution had NO birth requirement, only a residency one.

As for evidence, the courts were filled with cases in the early 1800s involving inheriting property, which in many cases hinged on the person being a NBC. And if a person had been a natural born subject of the colonies, and hadn’t rejected citizenship by choosing to leave the US, then they were held to be NBC of the USA. What mattered wasn’t who they were born to, but where, and if they had by acts rejected citizenship in the new USA.


42 posted on 05/08/2011 8:28:34 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: bushpilot1
How many Presidents have there been whose father was deported....

Really ... deported? Where pray tell did you see this heretofore unknown information about Obama Sr.? Last I knew he completed his studies at Harvard and returned to Kenya. His studies in the US were funded by some sort of fellowship and he returned to Kenya, as planned, soon after his education wrapped up.

43 posted on 05/08/2011 8:35:50 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Music Producer
I'm not dead yet!!!"
44 posted on 05/08/2011 8:43:38 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Excuse me, waiter! How’s the crow today? Fresh, is it? Wonderful! Please, a serving of crow for the whole table.


45 posted on 05/08/2011 8:49:21 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Steel Wolf

You can lead them to crow, but you can’t make them eat it!


46 posted on 05/08/2011 9:50:15 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: BluH2o

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File


47 posted on 05/08/2011 1:18:33 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Bluebird Singing

What is it with people like Hannity and Beck? They go so far to expose the treasonous activities of obama and those surrounding him, and reject this subject of eligibility. There’s a disconnect that is not logical.

It is odd and I have ceased to trust Fox as a result of it. Obama’s life story is interesting, to say the least, and no journalist has seen fit to look into it. Now, you can understand that from the likes of MSNBC, but I would think Mr. “question with boldness”, Beck could,at least, refrain from calling those of us who do question, Idiots and loons. Something does not add up. The whole way they covered the release of the latest fake BC was suspect.


48 posted on 05/08/2011 2:23:33 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: bvw

I did. But seriously...you know you’re in the fringe.


49 posted on 05/08/2011 3:34:31 PM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: sand lake bar

I’ll stick with Truth and Justice for $1,000, Alex!


50 posted on 05/08/2011 4:05:32 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Mr Rogers

You write pure fantasy. First, where is your evidence for anything that you say? And, second, it doesn’t matter what some demented individual that a draft of the Constitution included. The only thing that matters is what it does say. Again, your posts are devoid of any factual evidence.


51 posted on 05/08/2011 10:11:20 PM PDT by Music Producer
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To: Music Producer

And, second, it doesn’t matter what some demented individual *SAYS that a draft of the Constitution included.


52 posted on 05/09/2011 12:00:18 AM PDT by Music Producer
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To: allmost
Think about it - we have felony fraud committed, in which Biden, Pelosi and others must have been complicit. If this was ever exposed, a large part of the Democrat party would be facing felony charges. The line of succession would inevitably devolve to the Speaker of the House.

Which is why no one will touch it!

53 posted on 05/09/2011 9:37:44 AM PDT by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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To: NJ_Tom

Remind me again who the Speaker of the House is?


54 posted on 05/09/2011 10:40:44 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Hey - It has to be better than Biden!
55 posted on 05/09/2011 10:51:58 AM PDT by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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To: NJ_Tom
If, according to your scenario, if Presidential succession would go to the Speaker of the House - WHY would there be no political will to pursue this?

Tell me the name of the Speaker of the House again?

56 posted on 05/09/2011 10:54:48 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Because the GOP has lost its nerve entirely.


57 posted on 05/09/2011 11:01:58 AM PDT by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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To: NJ_Tom

And the name of the Speaker of the House?


58 posted on 05/09/2011 11:11:59 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Can't ..say ..name ..of ...Speaker!

...must ...not ...eat ...the crow!!

59 posted on 05/09/2011 11:16:44 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Steel Wolf
LOL!

Yes, I cannot help but translate that as....

“this would be total slam dunk if pursued - and lead to the incarceration and disgrace of the President the Vice President and many members of the opposition party - and put a Republican in as President - and THAT is why there is no political will to pursue it.”

Huh? One shudders to imagine the fantasyland where THAT sort of political calculus makes sense.

60 posted on 05/09/2011 11:27:19 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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