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Posted on 05/01/2011 7:24:18 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
Which is why I very much prefer living in a predominantly Judeo-Christian culture to an Islamic one.
What has always perplexed me about atheists is that they base this ‘identification’ on the fact that they DON’T believe something..
I don’t believe in Bigfoot. Yet, I don’t have a dire need to be accepted by society and identified for this.
The difference is clear though: While I do NOT believe in Bigfoot, Sasquatch, or whatever one may choose to call him, I have NO problem with those who DO believe and whatever THEY choose to do according to their belief.
That's true. In fact, under this view of atheism, a cabbage or a tire-iron is an atheist.
And yet you substituted "muslims" for "christian" in Grunthor's arugment as if the two are interchangeable.
Where they go overboard is going beyond the creation/evolution debate and claim that the fact that there is any debate is somehow a threat to the foundation of science.
Ira Flatow on People’s radio is in that camp.
These so-called "atheists" don't have a logical leg to stand on...
The teaching that matrimony is a sacrament gives to a religious clergy the power to judge the lawfulness of marriages and power of ecclesiastical censure for divorce...
The government of men's external actions by religion, pretending the change of nature in their consecrations cannot be esteemed a work extraordinary, it is no other than a conjuration or incantation, whereby they would have men to believe an alteration of nature that is contrary to the testimony of sight and of all the rest of the senses...
ATHEISTS ARE NO DIFFERENT IN THIS REGARD!
see #27...
Most “atheists” are guilty of gross religious faggotry on the topic of evolution...
“So far we have 2 atheists arguing for Islam. They sure know how to pick sides.”
Actually, it mostly boils down to “Anyone/Anything but Jesus”. This is the only thing that explains the Left/Liberal/Progressive propensity to embrace Islam, homosexuality, Gaia, “celebrity” murderers, etc.
(Just a few more seconds)
Unless I misplaced a decimal point, my calculations show that 8.3 minutes is (about) 1/63000 of a year. 1/63000 of 360 degrees is .00057. Thus, the Sun is actually .00057 degrees (or about 1/3 minute of arc) from where it appears to be. Insignificant.
Waitaminute...I'm not taking the rotation of the Earth into account.
The earth rotates through 360 degrees every 24 hours. 8.3 minutes is 1/173 of 24 hours. 1/173 x 360 degrees is...
2.1 degrees. Huh.
Am I missing something here? As far as I can tell, the math works.
Still, it's a (relatively) free country, so it's their time to waste.
No, you aren't missing anything at all. Except that some people choose not to see reality. They see without understanding.
Only in the context of Pascal's Wager. In the real world, they are very different in regards to how they affect society at large.
Well, it's be fun but I've got to run. More pressing matters (cooking breakfast, then a gun show) call! Good day, all!
2 Chronicles 2:20-23
“Early in the morning they left for the Desert of Tekoa. As they set out, Jehoshaphat stood and said, “Listen to me, Judah and people of Jerusalem! Have faith in the LORD your God and you will be upheld; have faith in his prophets and you will be successful.” After consulting the people, Jehoshaphat appointed men to sing to the LORD and to praise him for the splendor of his holiness as they went out at the head of the army, saying:
“Give thanks to the LORD,
for his love endures forever.”
As they began to sing and praise, the LORD set ambushes against the men of Ammon and Moab and Mount Seir who were invading Judah, and they were defeated. The Ammonites and Moabites rose up against the men from Mount Seir to destroy and annihilate them. After they finished slaughtering the men from Seir, they helped to destroy one another.”
See ya!
“Well, it’s be fun but I’ve got to run. More pressing matters (cooking breakfast, then a gun show) call! Good day, all!”
You’re obviously not one of the Gnus. You understand that, given your philosophy, every minute you spend arguing about God is a minute you could use taking pleasure in the only life you’ll ever have. I respect that, even if I don’t agree with it.
To be blunt, I think you're asking stupid questions and putting them to the wrong people. Imagine going into a conservative forum, like this one, and asking "but what if liberalism really is true? Gosh, then what? What if the Marxists are right? What if the 9/11 attacks were justified?? Then what?" It comes off as stupid and offensive, just like your "what if muslims are right?" questions. Muslims are not right. Muslim beliefs are not right. Blowing up America is not right. You know this. So stop it.
Now, about the 2.1 degrees. Here is how it started. Read this extraordinary thread. The fun begins with comment 482.
1 Samuel 15:3 and the killing of David and Bethsheeba’s innocent child. How does anyone who is religious get past these moral hurdles?
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