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Donald Trump, “Death Dodger,” avoids war service by — gasp! — common, legal, and honest methods
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| April 28, 2011
| Paul Klenk
Posted on 04/29/2011 3:16:46 PM PDT by Silly
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:16:52 PM PDT
by
Silly
To: Silly
It is typical of many on the left to denounce the horrible Vietnam war, rewrite its history, praise anyone who protested it, and denounce anyone in leadership who contributed to it
while employing a double standard by accusing those that oppose them of being draft dodgers. Creepy John Kerry went further, shaming the men he served with and our country in general, claiming that atrocities he described were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command...
In other words, even if Trump had served, he would have been guilty of war crimes.
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:18:12 PM PDT
by
Silly
(Okay, I'm getting just a little sick of this bereaved chicken-widow crap!)
To: Silly
“He got student deferments, allowing him to complete his education, and was later disqualified for medical reasons; by the time his number came up, he wasnt required to serve.”
I knew quite a few people from that era and nobody “wanted” to be drafted to Vietnam.
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:20:21 PM PDT
by
omega4179
To: Silly
From the article:
It is typical of many on the left to denounce the horrible Vietnam war, rewrite its history, praise anyone who protested it, and denounce anyone in leadership who contributed to it while employing a double standard by accusing those that oppose them of being draft dodgers. Creepy John Kerry went further, shaming the men he served with and our country in general, claiming that atrocities he described were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command...
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:25:06 PM PDT
by
Jim Scott
To: Silly
More leftist BS. No one cares about this issue anymore unless the guy was heading to Canada to avoid service. Military service also does not automatically make one a virtuous candidate. Rep Patrick Murphy was an Iraq vet who was caught cheating near the end of his failed ‘10 reelection.
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:36:30 PM PDT
by
Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
To: Silly
Sounds a lot more honorable that receiving a Purple Heart for a surface wound and using that an excuse to leave (John Kerry).
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:39:10 PM PDT
by
al_c
(http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
To: Silly
Maybe The Smoking Gun can find 0bama’s Selective Service records. Maybe they’ll find his college records.
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:40:35 PM PDT
by
Sister_T
("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
To: Sister_T
I’d like to see his application to the Illinois State Bar.
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:43:56 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Silly
There are so many things wrong with Trump that this is fairly trivial. However, I cant imagine how he could possibly be CIC..
I think military experience is invaluable but unfortunately today's crop of candidates for the most part lack that outstanding trait...
To: Silly
I applaud anyone who had a way to avoid going to a cesspool war called Vietnam. This was a blatant attempt to destroy the lives of 55,000 + lives of Americans for no sane reason.
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posted on
04/29/2011 4:02:08 PM PDT
by
Renegade
To: Renegade
Almost to a man, the Vietnam Vets that I know volunteered to go. They thought it was the right thing to do.
(Which has little to do with the story, but much to do with our changing ideas of right and wrong).
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posted on
04/29/2011 4:22:18 PM PDT
by
SuzyQue
(Remember to think.)
To: Silly
Similar to those on the left, it appears Trump-eteers also like to apply double standards.
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posted on
04/29/2011 4:28:38 PM PDT
by
bwc2221
To: Silly
He got student deferments, allowing him to complete his education, and was later disqualified for medical reasons; by the time his number came up, he wasnt required to serve. I think America needs to see Trump's medical deferment papers.
Cough them up Donald.
To: Renegade
Your statement is unacceptable unless you preface with
"This was a blatant attempt by the Democrat party and their leftwingtard running dog lackeys to destroy America and the lives of over 55,000 American soldiers and over 2,000,000 Vietnamese people, most particularly 500,000 of those Vietnamese who'd allied with the USA. Another half million were drowned in the South China Sea by the Democrat Party counterpart, the Communist Party of North Vietnam"Doncha' think it's much better that way?
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posted on
04/29/2011 4:59:24 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Renegade
Your statement is unacceptable unless you preface with
"This was a blatant attempt by the Democrat party and their leftwingtard running dog lackeys to destroy America and the lives of over 55,000 American soldiers and over 2,000,000 Vietnamese people, most particularly 500,000 of those Vietnamese who'd allied with the USA. Another half million were drowned in the South China Sea by the Democrat Party counterpart, the Communist Party of North Vietnam"Doncha' think it's much better that way?
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posted on
04/29/2011 4:59:42 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Silly
If Trump had actually served in Vietnam, he would have been called a BABY KILLER and a CHICKEN HAWK and all the other liberal fascist names they came up with back then.
If he had served our country with honor, he most likely would have a different life path than the one he has now.
He might not be a famous real estate tycoon, where the drive by media already knows everything about him.
There would be presstitutes searching through his past, and his garbage, trying to dig up dirt on him because he has the audacity to challenge these bustards. Ask Joe the Plumber.
My brother VOLUNTEERED for the ARMY during Vietnam. He served with honor and is now a very productive citizen with a family and the American dream.
IMHO he is more qualified to be POTUS than anybody I know.
There isn't one person in DC that is qualified to tie his shoes.
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posted on
04/29/2011 5:04:52 PM PDT
by
red-dawg
(There is no such thing as "government money".)
To: Silly
I spent 4 years in college and 2 years in grad school. Everyone who was attending college during those times was given an educational deferment. There was nothing wrong with it. It simply was standard practice. If you got a deferment, you were eligible to be drafted at a much later age. As I recall, the age jumped from 26 to around 35.
Those who did not go on to college were eligible for the draft. Most either enlisted or were drafted. By the way, in those days, whether one was drafted or not depended upon which draft board district they were registered in. Some districts had so many young men, they were able to meet their annual quota via enlistments. So, no one was drafted. Other districts fell well short and had to draft a lot of young men. That was far more unfair than the educational deferment system.
When I graduated, I was going to be drafted. I tried to enlist. Turns out I did not pass the physical due to a medical condition. I was classified 1Y which meant I could only serve during national emergencies.
Looking back, I wished I had been able to serve. However, I do not consider myself or others with similar experiences to be lacking in patriotism or valor.
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posted on
04/29/2011 5:25:53 PM PDT
by
CdMGuy
To: omega4179
I knew quite a few people from that era and nobody wanted to be drafted to Vietnam. Vietnam was not a war fought by draftees, like WWII was, the Vietnam military was overwhelmingly volunteers.
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posted on
04/29/2011 6:55:44 PM PDT
by
ansel12
( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
To: SuzyQue
Almost to a man, the Vietnam Vets that I know volunteered to go. They thought it was the right thing to do. (Which has little to do with the story, but much to do with our changing ideas of right and wrong). See post 18, Vietnam was the war of the volunteer soldiers, WWII was the draftee war.
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posted on
04/29/2011 7:00:08 PM PDT
by
ansel12
( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
To: SuzyQue
Almost to a man, the Vietnam Vets that I know volunteered to go Very true. The tale that most of our troops in Vietnam were draftees is just another leftist myth. But it is true that the “privileged” tried every loophole to keep there precious lilly-white a$$es from being shot at. Gone were the days when people believed privilege brought responsibility.
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