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Sound the Trumpet (Levin: Trump is no conservative)
Legal Insurrection ^ | 4/16/2011 | William Jacobson

Posted on 04/16/2011 7:32:47 AM PDT by Lakeshark

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To: Lakeshark

Why is this such a “big reveal”?

Who in Hell’s Bells ever thought Trump was a conservative in the first place?

Trump has some conservative ideas, at least from time to time. But acting like it’s this big discovery that he’s a capitalist who leans Democrat and cherry picks ideas from both sides of the political aisle is nonsense.

Trump has gotten the attention he’s gotten thus far because he’s gotten in Obama’s face. Happened to be over the birther thing, but that’s not the whole story. People are sick of being told they can’t ask their president any damn quesiton they please, for as long as they want to ask it, until it is answered to their satisfaction. That is all.

And any political analyst who thinks Trump’s birther talk isn’t blistering Obama is the real nut. ANYTHING that taps into the deep skepticism people have about this man and his demonstrable lack of being culturally an American hurts Obama politically.

Further, to claim that birtherism is a waste of time, a distraction or whatever . . . Please. Levin, are you really meaning to suggest that Trump can’t walk and chew gum at the same time?

We’re a year out and this is one of the things that will run its course, one way or the other.

I understand the trepidation of a Perot redux that ultimately re-elects Obama. But address that directly.


61 posted on 04/16/2011 9:15:08 AM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: chris37
Mark is right when he says no court is gonna remove Obama.

While that may be the goal the some birthers, it is far from the standard by which to judge the political meaning of the birther issue.

One might say "no court is going to overturn Obamacare" and be 100% correct in that assessment. But that reality has NOTHING to do with the political meaning of mass opposition to Obamacare.

62 posted on 04/16/2011 9:18:11 AM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: biggredd1

While it does not make the connection directly, the discussion of the responsibilities of Perkins Coie in these various investigations/audits suggest that the lion’s share of billings they’ve done since Nov. 2011 relate to matters OTHER than birth certificate litigation. Thus, the claims of Obama’s spending millions to hide his BC probably need to be toned down.


63 posted on 04/16/2011 9:21:12 AM PDT by DrC
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To: SharpRightTurn

I agree.

What these political analysts are missing is the fascinating fact that the birther question continues to have such power to stoke the political fires.

I see that because it is about so much more than a birth certificate, or even eligibility.

What analysts should be talking about is how politically incredible it is to have so much deep and wide sentiment that there is something culturally non-American about the President of the United States. That there is aman in office who consistently acts so contrary to the idea of America that people really wonder “what’s wrong with this picture?”


64 posted on 04/16/2011 9:23:38 AM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: rintense
No, you haven't seen that at all ~ or at least we hope you haven't because if you have you need a different prescription.

We have drawn on lessons from the lives of other men to illuminate that of Donald Trump.

Tripping him up on the women who've been part of his life is probably not very productive. We should, instead, go back and look at some of his real estate deals where he lost money.

65 posted on 04/16/2011 9:28:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Huck
That's all we seem to get anymore is teen crushes. For Fred Thompson. For Mrs. Palin. And now for Trump. We are a foolish people, and we're getting what we deserve.

YES.

Fangirliness rules!

One person does one politically attractive thing and the fangirls (men and women) run to him/her and start clamoring that he/she should run for President!

Remember when people immediately started talking about Scott Brown for president?

Or one person does one politically unattractive thing and the fangirls (men and woman) are demanding that he be thrown off the island immediately. Politics is not a reality show for arrested adolescence.

66 posted on 04/16/2011 9:28:50 AM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: muawiyah
His eminent domain crap makes me sick.

“Individual freedom finds tangible expression in property rights.” This statement, penned by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, recognizes how central property rights are to a free society.

Yet, with increasing frequency, federal, state, and local governments bow to political and economic expediency and trample the rights of property owners.

Vera Coking, an elderly widow from Atlantic City, knows firsthand the power of unaccountable government agencies. The Institute for Justice successfully defended Vera against the condemnation of her home by a State agency that sought to take her property and transfer it—at a bargain-basement price—to another private individual: Donald Trump. Trump convinced the State agency to use its “eminent domain” power to take Vera’s home so he could construct a limousine parking lot for his customers—hardly a public purpose. And unfortunately, cases in which government agencies act not as protectors of constitutionally guaranteed rights, but instead as agents for powerful, private interests, have become all too common.

Thanks to IJ’s advocacy, Vera Coking won in court and continues to enjoy her home of more than three decades. Found here


67 posted on 04/16/2011 9:35:47 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Lakeshark

Levin: “Trump is no conservative”
...and you Mark Levin are no defender of the Constitution!
What you are is a hypocrite!


68 posted on 04/16/2011 9:36:52 AM PDT by blockhead51 (Oust the Evil Socialist Usurper!)
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To: Lakeshark
The GOP has shown themselves gutless.

Worse, they have shown themselves complicit with the democrat plan to destroy the Nation.

They are unworthy of our support unless they make a radical and severe turn to the right.

At least Trump is willing to call these commies out.

Is Trump a "conservative"? Certainly not in the most recent definitions. He's a social liberal, "moderate" spender and fierce defender of US Interests. And, he's got balls.

He would bust OPEC, tariff all Chinese products, keep what the US Army takes and has the clarity of vision that allows him to articulate some of the most dangerous threats to our survival.

Whether he runs or not, he has my gratitude.

69 posted on 04/16/2011 9:56:53 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: mylife

“It’s about time someone cleared the air” ~ mylife

My post:

Is SOROS involved?

[[[ Remember the article back in November in the Huffington Post — Soros had said he had given up on Obama and was looking elsewhere. A lot of the speculation was Trump. (related story from source I can link to)
http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-says-he-may-have-to-look-beyond-obama-for-his-political-investments-2010-11 ]]]

The “Co-Opt the Tea Party Movement” being put into practice by Trump?

Sounds quite plausible to me!
Trent Lott [R] on Tea Party candidates: ‘As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them’
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/07/19/trent-lott-on-tea-party-candidates-as-soon-as-they-get-here-we-need-to-co-opt-them/
12:27 pm July 19, 2010, by Jay
The money quote from a Washington Post piece on the Tea Party and Washington’s GOP establishment:

Former Senate majority leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), now a D.C. lobbyist, warned that a robust bloc of rabble-rousers spells further Senate dysfunction. “We don’t need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples,” Lott said in an interview. “As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.” But Lott said he’s not expecting a tea-party sweep. “I still have faith in the visceral judgment of the American people,” he said.

69 posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:40:32 PM by Matchett-PI
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2705800/posts?page=69#69


70 posted on 04/16/2011 9:57:57 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Lakeshark

People can say what they want about Trump. But he’s the first person to EFFECTIVELY point out that the Emperor has no clothes. When I say effectively, I mean that he’s thrown down the gauntlet and challenged the Marxist-controlled media in such a way that they’ve been unable to ignore him, intimidate him, or denigrate him.

Quite frankly, Obama and the Marxist-controlled media are petrified of Trump because he has the resources to truly dig up the dirt on Obama, which they all know is not that difficult since they’ve been covering this stuff up for Obama for years. Furthermore, they know Trump won’t hesitate to back a dump truck up to front gate of the White House and dump that big heaping pile of dirt right on Obama’s doorstep.

Most of the rest of the GOP have been too scared to mention that the Emperor has no clothes, and the few that have mentioned it have done so trepidatiously and have retreated at the first sign of being labeled a “birther”.


71 posted on 04/16/2011 10:02:04 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff! "Anybody but Obama in 2012!")
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To: fightinJAG

All part of the decline and fall of America.


72 posted on 04/16/2011 10:20:46 AM PDT by Huck (“We must have universal healthcare,” Donald Trump.)
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To: rintense
The "idle rich" are the folks in Atlantic City who sit there hogging perfectly useful and productive real estate just so they can have a view.

Trump screwed up here by not arranging for a stock swap for her property. That way she could see a hunk of the profit coming from the transaction and have an asset base of sufficient size to swing a loan to buy a more non-commercial home overlooking the Jersey shore.

I'd suggest "The Donald" most likely didn't play a part in this one ~ he is a billionaire you know ~ gotta' be one of his greedball flunkies.

BTW, when you get to be a billionaire you get to meet more greedy people than you thought possible.

73 posted on 04/16/2011 10:29:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; mnehring

So people owning property even for ‘views’ should have it taken? Dear God I can’t believe I’m reading this crap on a CONSERVATIVE site!


74 posted on 04/16/2011 10:33:10 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Mariner
Certainly a progressive idea to KEEP what our army conquers ~ sans the people of course.

Really, Iraq's oil is in much better hands when we control it than it is theirs.

And the Hindu Kush? There's some stuff in there worth having ~ but it needs the sort of security only the USA can provide to give the miners a chance to go at it.

I think one of the best ways to close the Defense Cost Deficit is to retrieve assets of value.

75 posted on 04/16/2011 10:34:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rintense
The only reason you think I'm being critical is my description of this ol'gal as being among "the idle rich".

So, maybe you'd like to 'splain to the folks why the idle rich should command our attention? (letting you dig the hole deeper).

Hey, there was this Japanese American guy living in the Japanese American community where Disneyland now stands, but he refused to sell.

Disney designed around his little "farm". Then, one day he died and Disney interests immediately made a deal with his family (and other heirs) who expressed dismay about how he'd kept them impoverished all those years ~ driving some to consider public welfare ~ just because he refused to sell.

For all you know I'm one of that old lady's heirs or creditors, and know it's time to sell.

So, parking for limousines? You'd think that'd been built into the original property wouldn't you!

(BTW, I think this story has been hyped up a bit and there's less here than you'd like to imagine).

76 posted on 04/16/2011 10:41:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rintense

Wesley Mooch would be proud of some of the posters on this thread.

Trump could offer Directive 10-289 as a solution and some people here would wear out knee pads making excuses to please him. Makes you wonder if we have some paid posters like the HSW days of old.


77 posted on 04/16/2011 10:43:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: muawiyah
Maybe you should explain to freepers and conservatives everywhere when its acceptable for a private businessman to use political capital for personal gain by using eminent domain.

Whether she's 'idle rich' (nice class warfare term, there), or a dirt farmer, she still has right guaranteed to her by the Constitution. And she won.

78 posted on 04/16/2011 10:44:41 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: mnehring

I’ve been here since 2000, and have some pretty crazy stuff. But I *never* thought I’d see freepers fall so blindly behind such an obvious liberal. Did you ever think you’d see any freeper support who regularly donates to the most rabid liberals, and then excuse it as ‘greasing the wheels’? Did yo ever think you’d see freepers support a guy who called for Bush to be impeached for ‘lying about Iraq’? Did you ever think you’d see freepers support someone who clearly uses eminent domain for his own personal interests? And did you think you’d ever see freepers compare Trump to Ronald Reagan!?!?!?!


79 posted on 04/16/2011 10:48:54 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: rintense

When you hope for change, you can fall for any clown.


80 posted on 04/16/2011 10:51:30 AM PDT by mnehring
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