Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)

WHDH-TV / CNN ^ | April 11, 2011

[little jeremiah]

Hmm, I’ve read as much Smith stuff as I found, and don’t remember that part. But me not rememebering is far from conclusive!

Hopefully someone will remember and post it.

[bgill]

I've been meaning to bring this up - notice anything unusual about this list? Out of the 10 families living in the apt house/building, there are 4 married women without their husbands. This just wasn't done back in those days. Also, Mary wasn't listed but Joseph was. None of the residents have a spouse or other family member listed. In other years and directories, all adults along with their occupation are listed so why not this one?

Considering there were also at least a couple children living there, that's a boatload of people living in what was supposed to hold only 4 apartments. Fine, some may be roommates but if Mary is missing then we can assume others are also not listed. Too many inconsistencies and questions.

[hoosiermama]

Date of Naturalization: 20 Mar 1958???

[dennisw]

That was student housing. Private housing for students. Plus you don’t know the husbands were not living there.

[bgill]

Edwin Obedoza, 37, of Honolulu died Saturday in St. Francis Hospital. Born in Honolulu...

A death date in the July '98 obits would make him born about '61.

[mojitojoe]

Could be but based on those photos, my guess is it is not the same woman.

[bgill]

There was also another anomaly that I observed about the 1960-1964 index in general that I am not going to disclose at this time.

Just glancing at it, the heading either starts in the middle of the page (no, not done like that)or the second page overlaps the previous page meaning the copy is so bad we can't see the line between the two pages. Or there's a goofy section of the background at the top right hand corner.

[LucyT]

Interesting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501812/posts?page=59#59

From:

0bama Family: "Barack 0bama Sr Married Anna Toot in Hawaii" "Their union produced B. 0bama Jr."
All Africa ^ | 15 August 2004 | John Oywa

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501812/posts

[Fred Nerks]

If you juxtapose this interview with Mary Blakes is clear they are talking about different women, and babies...

Mary Toutonghi

Poor Mary! Charlette LeFevre telephones her in Alaska, she's tracked her down through the name at apt 10 on the address listing for her ex husband Joseph, (who wouldn't want to talk to Charlette, Joseph is a conservative) and that interview Mary gave about her stolen obama campaign signs...

Mary says, yes, I REMEMBER ANNA, I BABYSAT FOR HER. When? When my daughter was 18 months old, she was born in July, 1959...so it must have been...but that doesn't suit Charlette, she wants to run MYSTERY TOURS past the Seattle address of the POTUS...so Charlette decides Mary's memory has to be faulty...

And when the obots find out that ANNA OBAMA has been discovered, all h*ll breaks lose! They have to turn her into Stanley Ann Dunham somehow.

Funny thing is (it's the cover up!) they would have been better off to leave the story alone...it's the cover-up that leaves a trail behind.

And thats' my interpretation of events.

[bgill]

Let me explain this again. These directories try, though not alway succeed, in getting every name they can into the book. Why did they miss so many people in the apartment house? If they got the wife’s name, then surely they would have attempted to get the husband’s name. Usually, both husband and wife are listed along with their place of employment and/or occupation. Back in those days, there wouldn’t have been 4 wives living without their husbands. Mary isn’t shown living there but her husband is listed. So, if Mary’s there and the other four wives have husbands, that’s at least 5 extra people in that house. Then there’s the kids - Mary’s and Anna’s and possibly others. So, we’re at 10 people listed, at least 4 extra spouses, and at least 2 kids for a total of at minimum 16 people living in a house that was cut up into 4 apartments. Anna’s and Mary’s family occupy two so that leaves at the very least 9 people occupying the other two apartments. I can’t imagine there were but one or two bedrooms per apartment so where were all those people sleeping? Free love?

[mojitojoe]

There was also another anomaly that I observed about the 1960-1964 index in general that I am not going to disclose at this time.
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GOOD! It’s best to keep the really relevant info and research OFF the open forum. ;)

[bgill]

I thought Mary said there were 4 apartments in the house. Mary was living in the basement apartment and Anna was living on the first floor above her. The directory listing of 10 persons at the house is what I’m questioning in posts right above this. No way that house would have been able to be cut up into 10 apartments.

But then if the pic on the net is not the real #516 apartment house, then that’s a whole new can of you know what.

[mojitojoe]

That’s not all that’s missing:

Not a single photo of Stanley Anne with her newborn baby, her first born, NOT A SINGLE ONE! None of Senior with Anne, NONE until Barry was about 10 years old. NONE of Senior with Barry until many years later. Not a single photo of Barry until he was several months old and I have my doubts that is even him in that one and only photo.

[bgill]

And those pics with dear ol’ dad were from a time when he was coerced into coming back to HI. Whatever the reason was that he came back is key to a lot of this. If the story is true, the Dunhams footed his bill and rented him an apartment for an entire month. Madelyn didn’t seem too pleased she was going to have to put up with him either. What sort of “family business” would have taken a whole month? Interestingly, that visit was Christmas 1970 which is the same year that the relatives claim little Barry’s mama died. There’s been various theories thrown out there, but no one knows for sure. Curiouser and curiouser.

[Brown Deer]

It is abundantly clear that you did not read the article.

Indeed, I have read the article, so you lied again!

In fact, if you had searched for "marriage," you would have easily found the money quote. Instead you call me a liar???

I sure did because you never said anything at all about "marriage"! You mentioned a wedding!

researcher finds listings for the wedding of Barack, Sr and Stanley Ann.

There is nothing at all in that interview about a wedding. The researcher mentions that a misspelled name of 0bama, Sr. was listed next to the name of Stanley Ann Dunham on a printout with a date range of five years and no other information!

The article also mentions finding Barack Hussein Obama II in the indexes, yet you then go on to say,

The married, had a child (in Mombasa) and that child stayed with Stanley Ann through her period in Seattle and Hawaii, and possibly through a trip to Boston.

You are a hypocrite! SHAME ON YOU!

[mojitojoe]

For example, I am quite convinced the newspaper announcements were forgeries
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:) that would be a very correct assumption and all it will take to blow that wide open are 2-3 actual newspapers from that date. tick tock

[mojitojoe]

However, you can’t deny that Stanley and and Barack, sr were married, according to Hawaiian documents.
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Don’t bet the farm on that statement pal.

[mojitojoe]

exceedingly large number of quotes
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HUGE exaggeration.

[Brown Deer]

You can believe what you want about this Anna character. However, you can’t deny that Stanley and and Barack, sr were married, according to Hawaiian documents.

Really? Show us the marriage certificate!

There are many ways to interpret the birth listings at the Hawaii DOH. My personal belief is that the report was recompiled at a later date to include BHO jr’s birth.

Really? The birth report was recompiled, but the marriage report was not?

As a computer professional specializing in developing databases such as these, I find no evidence to support your hypotheses.

[Brown Deer]

Not a single photo of Stanley Anne with her newborn baby, her first born, NOT A SINGLE ONE!

No baby pictures with her, no wedding pictures...

She could afford to fly all over the world, in the 1960s, when flying was a luxury? but had no camera? or no friends with cameras?