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American Ghost Towns Of The 21st Century
24/7 Wall Street ^ | March 27, 2011 | Douglas A. McIntyre

Posted on 04/02/2011 2:11:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 04/02/2011 2:11:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I’m not sure what the point is of the article. Looks like each of the 10 “ghost towns” is a vacation/tourist area that has always had an off-season. These are “ghost towns” off-season in any event. I gather the point is that people are unloading their vacation/second homes and therefore there is a huge inventory of vacant homes in these areas.

These areas pale next to places like Las Vegas and others that have immense “ghost towns” of incomplete new developments that were meant to be the owners primary residences.


2 posted on 04/02/2011 2:23:11 PM PDT by rockvillem
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Mono County sits near the Sierra Nevada and Yosemite National Parks. Ironically, Bodie, the official state gold rush ghost town, is in Mono County.

Actually Mono County sits right in the middle of the Sierra Nevada with 14,000' peaks.

3 posted on 04/02/2011 2:23:22 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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Interesting that three out of those ten are in Wisconsin.
 
 
 

4 posted on 04/02/2011 2:23:54 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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logging, forestry and construction industries, each of which struggled during the recession.

Two of the three killed off by lefty green jihad

5 posted on 04/02/2011 2:28:46 PM PDT by hattend (Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
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Interesting that three out of those ten are in Wisconsin.

I have family connections in Sawyer County, Wisconsin. Most of the empty homes are summer homes that were built by people from Minneapolis. People said they were crazy to build million dollar homes where the economy could not support them. The local real estate market has gone down, but hasn't hit bottom yet. You might find a good deal if you are retired or have another independent means of support. Notice how there are nearly as many homes as residents? That is a pretty good clue that most of the empty homes are vacation homes.

6 posted on 04/02/2011 2:30:53 PM PDT by marktwain
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What a strange article. It uses census data to claim that houses are vacant. Well, most of those houses may be second homes, and we don’t want people to be counted twice. If they are seasonal rental properties, again they would most likely not have a tenant on April 1, 2010.

For example, Worcester County, Md includes Ocean City, a hugely popular summer resort. So 49000+ people show up in 19000+ households on the census, in a county that has 55000 housing units. Almost all of the “empty” housing units are fully occupied in the summer by people who live elsewhere.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/24/24047.html


7 posted on 04/02/2011 2:31:00 PM PDT by maica ( It is better to trust in the LORD Than to put confidence in man.)
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I'd like to know the breakdown of those remaining, that are employed by government, on welfare, or belong to unions.

Friggin leeches.

8 posted on 04/02/2011 2:34:31 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Those unions are killing Wisconsin.


9 posted on 04/02/2011 2:42:01 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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Thanx for that bit of inside info.
 
 
 

10 posted on 04/02/2011 2:43:22 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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From this list, it looks like Fleebag senators are not the only folks leaving the Soviet Socialist State of Wisconsin....
11 posted on 04/02/2011 2:53:57 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Yes. I don’t know what the point of the article is either.

Martha’s VIneyard (Dukes County-MA) has always been like that - the running joke for decades is that the island raises up a foot when the tourists leave.

Every town on the island shuts down at 5pm there and off season when I was young the most fun you’d get as a kid was watching the A&P truck unload at the store - now that was exciting!


12 posted on 04/02/2011 2:54:18 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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There are something like 4 counties in Michigan with less than 10,000 people. According to the recent census results they were among the counties with growing populations. Keweenaw county has less than 2500 people.

Frankly, the sparsely populated upper peninsula is my kind of place. Incidentally the Bing background photo today is from the UP.


13 posted on 04/02/2011 2:56:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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I was wrong. It was 9 counties with less than 10,000 in them.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110322/NEWS06/110322061/Interactive-map-See-Michigan-s-2010-census-results


14 posted on 04/02/2011 3:05:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: marktwain
We have been going to June Lake for 30 years, lots of cabins there and a lot more at Mammoth Mountain a bit south of there, almost all owned by LA area people who use June or Mammoth for skiing and or fishing.


15 posted on 04/02/2011 3:11:52 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: rockvillem
I expected to see Las Vegas on the list.

As for the point of the article ... I kind of appreciate that it wasn't trying to make one. As far as I'm concerned, it was just giving me interesting information to compute. If there was a point, it was that property tax receipts for the counties were taking a drop because the tax is based on the value of the property, and as the property value drops, so does county funding, and so county-run things are closing, etc. I say -- fine with me. People can be self-sufficient in most of the areas the county government gets into, anyway, with the exception of law enforcement.

Real estate prices are fascinating things. I noted that all those presumably scenically lovely places had seasons, times of year when it's not a place for pleasantness. Second homes in tourist areas that are temperate year-round ... I don't see any on that list, including Florida, where humid summers are plain gruelling.

16 posted on 04/02/2011 3:14:27 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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The inland portion of Dare County, NC would qualify. The islands are breezy and cooler than the southeastern coastal summer norm, though. The Labrador Current is cold. It clashes with the bathwater of the Gulf Stream at Cape Hatteras, which is in Dare County.


17 posted on 04/02/2011 3:20:11 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Yup, the census counts seasonal second homes as vacant. Maine has a lot of those. According to the Census, 22% of all the homes in Maine are vacant. They’re vacation homes, they’re not vacation homes for sale, or anything like that. Vacation homes. It’s completely useless except to tell us where the vacation homes are.


18 posted on 04/02/2011 3:22:11 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: rockvillem
I expected to see Las Vegas on the list.

As for the point of the article ... I kind of appreciate that it wasn't trying to make one. As far as I'm concerned, it was just giving me interesting information to compute. If there was a point, it was that property tax receipts for the counties were taking a drop because the tax is based on the value of the property, and as the property value drops, so does county funding, and so county-run things are closing, etc. I say -- fine with me. People can be self-sufficient in most of the areas the county government gets into, anyway, with the exception of law enforcement.

Real estate prices are fascinating things. I noted that all those presumably scenically lovely places with high vacancy rates had seasons, times of year when it's definitely not a place for pleasantness. Naturally those places have higher occupancy certain seasons than others, and we expect that, but they're also experiencing higher vacancies than average, presumably.

High vacancy rates in tourist areas that are temperate year-round ... I don't see any on that list; Florida doesn't qualify because its humid summers are plain gruelling. What's my point? Weather has a whole helluva lot to do with the "location, location, location" mantra of real estate. At least, that's how it looks to me.

19 posted on 04/02/2011 3:23:09 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: RegulatorCountry
The Labrador Current is cold. It clashes with the bathwater of the Gulf Stream at Cape Hatteras,

Which is why we vacation farther south. Bill and Tom would love to go hang-gliding on the dunes at Kitty Hawk, but the little kids need to be able to go in the water, or we might as well stay home and clean the baseboards with toothbrushes.

20 posted on 04/02/2011 3:24:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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