Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE
His supposed “father” couldn’t get a SS#. He was never a citizen. SO, that theory goes out the window.
All I know is that something is rotten in Denmark, and there’s a reason he shelled out nearly $2 million to hide all his records.
People can theorize all they want, but, we want truth and facts. Hopefully, someday soon, we’ll get some answers.
Obama is using someone elses SSN. This is not in dispute.
Nope. He would have applied by mail to the central office, which would have assigned the number based on the zip code in the application:
Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card.
From here:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html
So if the bureaucrat in Baltimore mistyped his zip code, he would have gotten a SSN that starts with 042.
Second, speaking as someone who has a number issued from a state other than the one he was born in, I know that I needed a social security number when I started elementary school - which is when mine was issued. While it’s plausible that Hawaii did not have the same requirement Maryland did, this adds a wrinkle to your “facts.”
Got any evidence Hawaii required a SSN for elementary school?
I never claimed there was any proof. I only claim is that it is a plausible theory that fits the facts. The same cannot be said of the birther theories.
Obama is using someone elses SSN.
As far as I can tell, there's no evidence anyone other than Obama is using that 042 SSN.
This is not in dispute.
Yes it is.
Nope. That was true up until 1973, but since then all Social Security number applications have been forwarded to Baltimore by the local offices. Then the Baltimore office issues numbers based on the ZIP code.
Really? This is the first instance of which I am aware where there are typos associated with his records. Nor am I aware of other records of his getting lost. Have you got any other examples?
“In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042, and one starting 364.
In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999, which are not valid SSNs.
There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.
In Massachusetts — where Obama attended Harvard Law School — we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008.”
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/SocialSecurity.htm
No, nothing here, move along.
Though the close relationship with Ayers/Dohrn has been discredited by BHO and sources, it’s probable they knew each other before Chicago ... they were both in NY for college.
Ayers’ terrorism is well know obviously, but also likely his/WeatherUnderground’s savvy in getting fake ID’s back then .. which was a breeze compared to now.
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But the implication being made is important: Bernardine Dohrn committed identity theft in late ‘79 and early ‘80, and the fake drivers’ licenses obtained with those stolen identities were used by Weather Underground members to rent getaway vehicles for armed robberies committed in the suburban New York area in the early ‘80s. Subsequent armed robbies by the same group — including the Brinks robbery — also utilized the exact same technique:
stolen identities were once again used to obtain fake licenses which were then used to rent getaway cars.
What the article does not state directly, but what is clearly hinted at in the final sentence of the quote, is that Bernardine Dohn continued to be the source of the stolen identities. If so, she had a direct connection to the Brinks robbery, working behind the scenes.
This New York Times article was referenced (but not quoted) recently in this April 23, 2008 article in the Chicago Tribune, which stated:
At Broadway Baby, customers often paid by check and used driver’s licenses for identification.
On Dec. 28, 1979, information from two customer files was used to apply for two driver’s licenses at the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles. The fraudulent licenses were used to rent getaway cars for the gang.
Investigators tracked the identities on two licenses for the getaway cars. The names belonged to women who had shopped at Broadway Baby in December 1979. But they weren’t robbers.
And who was the manager of Broadway Baby during that period of the customer ID theft?
Dohrn, the future [Note: they were actually already married] wife of Ayers, identified by investigators as taking customer information from one, and possibly both, of the women shoppers. Dohrn was never charged in that case.
Dohrn and Ayers had been running for some 11 years, fleeing federal charges that they instigated riots in Chicago in 1969. They finally came in out of the cold in 1980, but the New York gang continued its spree, ending in the bloody 1981 robbery in Rockland County that left a Brinks security guard and two police officers dead.
http://www.zombietime.com/obama_and_the_weather_underground/
Add a third problem - even if there was a typo, the assignment to a new applicant would not be a re-issue.
I got my SS card in 1970 when I got a part time summer job. I lived in Massachusetts as a kid and had to go to the town hall. I forgot what office it was, but the lady ripped a card off of a roll of them, typed my name on it, took my application, and that was all there was to it. My brother got his after me and his SSN is one (1) higher than mine. At that time, SS cards from Mass. started with “034”. I don’t know if you could apply by mail back then.
except that doesn’t explain the old man who previously had that number. They don’t recycle them when someone dies. At least, not legally.
What evidence do you have that someone else ever had that number?
Hmmm ... can’t remember how I got mine in Mass .. probably in the 60’s .. but it doesn’t start with the # yours does.
The birther theory that his SSN is fradulant.
Fact. He had a Connecticut SS#.
Yes. That's a fact. So?
Worse. He had a dead man's social security number!
I doubt that very much. Prove it.
The system changed in 1973. See my links in posts above.
You are right, he has no records so how could they be lost?
It was in the link you were just given. Please read it.
Otherwise Michelle, please go perform your duties as first lady and stop arguing on a message board.
I just noticed the article names two separate assignments. Mr. Wood has a number that ends 4424, Mr. Obama’s assignment ends in 4425.
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