Posted on 02/28/2011 3:26:01 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
I can’t see how he can possibly survive. Most of the country has fallen to anti-Gaddafi forces, and they’re putting the squeeze on Tripoli itself. Most Libyans have now come out so comprehensively against him that I just don’t see how he could go on the offensive and crush the opposition at this point.
In addition, he has become a complete pariah and pretty much the whole world (with perhaps the exception of the mighty nation of Zimbabwe, lol) has hung him out to dry. Many of his former cronies have defected, and only he, his family and his most die-hard supporters have any stake left in him winning. There is almost nobody, in Libya or without that would gain an advantage in seeing him regain control of Libya. The world has to support the rebels now because if he did regain control of the situation, this lunatic would be seriously pissed off at the world and would go back to being a NK style pariah state.
It is clearly and unambiguously in the interests of the whole world, not just the Libyans, that this clown goes down, ASAP...
the problem with Obama’s endorsement is that he never back up his words with actual help.
Your points are valid... but he ain’t stepping down, they’ll have to kill him, imho
Personally I think his side can win without his survival. In other words its a civil war that doesn’t require his survival to continue.
Hitler wasn’t stepping down either. But there wasn’t any hope of him winning towards the end either. One of his former closest friends said that he would be like Hitler and kill himself in his bunker.
I think that shortly, we will be hearing news of his suicide or well-deserved lynching. This guy has no friends, nowhere to go, nowhere to run and in any case he is too deluded to have done the sensible thing even when it wasn’t too late to do so...
If Egypt looked like Obama’s Iran this is beginning to look like his Rwanda. He’s twice the incompetent and accomplice in genocide as his democrat predecessors, and in only two years!
Hitler was surrounded by the US, British, and Soviet armies... Gaddafi is surrounded by tribal enemies with small arms and a couple tanks
And imo NO WAY he steps down, never
To paraphrase another tyrant, how many divisions does Farrakhan have?
Qadaffi is not going to survive this one.
He's going to either win or die. He's already gone too far for any other result. He's ensured that his air force and the tribes allied to him are in the same position: win or die, and the longer the conflict continues, the less likelihood there is of any settlement short of complete victory or extermination for them.
The final move will be to arm his loyal tribes and have them attack the rebels.
I wouldn't be too sure of that. Remember that Iran's Shah was replaced by the Mullahs, the Tzar by the Bolsheviks, France's King by the Terror.
Will you be happy next year upon finding out that Daffy's replacement is al-Queda?
How many mercenaries are there? How well-disciplined are they? What kind of military power do they represent? Are they essentially a large gang of armed thugs or are they a military force that could spearhead a real advance into rebel-held territories?
I seriously doubt that will happen. Libyans aren’t Islamic fundamentalists on the whole, and they wouldn’t have enough support to take control of Libya.
The fact is that now what has happened has happened, Gaddafi is alienated from the rest of the world, so it is very important that he does not regain control, because if he did, in defiance of the rest of the world, he would start supporting terrorists and start developing WMDs again, like he was in the 1980s. In the unlikely event that he would actually manage to succeed in being able to crush this rebellion, we would need to take him out for our own sakes...
I absolutely agree. Just referring to the image the incompetence and faulty timing projects for him personally and politically. Libya may end up looking more like the Spanish Civil War with Qadafi as Franco and Benghazi as Guernica.
My real point is Obama is dreaming if he thinks Gaddafi is stepping down because he told him too- he knows that smiley plastic mannequin isn’t going to do anything
Kill or be killed now- he painted himself into a corner with the massacres and will now fight to the end imho
I think you are underestimating the forces ranged against Gaddafi. He’s completely lost the eastern portion of the country, and rebel forces are already in posession of territory very close to the capital. Army, Navy and Air force units have defected to the rebel cause, and I’m sure that the SAS, SBS assets that we already know are on the ground (along with other nation’s SFs no doubt) are probably going to be working with the rebels to formulate a plan to make the final push.
Nobody outside Libya is helping Gaddafy, not even his own diplomats, the only people who are actually likely to be getting any outside assistance are the rebels themselves because because most countries have dropped Gaddafy like a heavy sack of s**t, and we are all much more invested in wanting to see the rebels win. Combined with the embargo that is now being enforced on Tripoli, I would think that it is the rebels who have the advantage of being able to call on outside assistance and supplies, not what is left of Gaddafy’s regime. This is a role reversal in what is usually the case with tyrannical governments dealing with rebel insurrections..
Entirely possible IMO... I don’t think the rebels will take Tripoli anytime soon
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