Posted on 02/01/2011 4:13:50 AM PST by RobinMasters
I doubt this celebrity reporter is a legal genius. He probably doesn’t know what a search warrant even really is.
Lost in Translation: Gov. Abercrombie Used a Search Warrant to get Obama's Birth Certificate !?
Check out # 9 , # 14 , # 16 , # 19 , and more.
[Thanks for the pings.]
Amen to that!
I'd like to know what judge he found to sign the warrant. IMO, this is just more nonsense from Gov Pothead just like "it's written in the Archives" when BC's are not kept in the archives.
I totally agree. Having been party to the scattering of the cremated remains of relatives on three separate occasions, I was totally bemused by the image of what appeared to be the wafting into the ocean breeze of Hawaii -what appeared to be fine sand. The real thing is as you say:
dime, nickel, and quarter-sized boney rocks.
Some good info here regarding your questions:
http://www.cremationinfo.com/cremationinfo/Questions.htm#look
I haven’t seen any scattering of ashes myself, but do a search for “scattering ashes” and there are similar pictures. Of course, I’m sure there are similar pictures for busted bags of flour, too.
I said that back when they scattered them. My dad’s ashes were scattered on a mountain top, so the wind would be similar as on the edge of an oceanic cliff. Even with all that wind, on the ledge of a mountain... it essentially went “clunk” in a big pile under the cliff. It wasn’t “ashes” in any traditional sense of the word.
My mother was cremated last year. Her remains that we placed in a memorial garden were grayish white ash, no chunks or gravel sized pieces. Finer than fireplace ash.
Some places such as where my mother was cremated use something similar to a blender/grinder to break the remains down further so they are a powdery ash.
I had been warned by others that the pouring of her remains into the open grave night be graphic as there might be teeth or bone fragments but there was not because of the process the crematorium she went to used.
The cremated remains -- essentially a mass of course ash along with bone fragments of various sizes at this point -- will now be processed in a machine that will pulverize the cremated remains to a uniform size. Multiple passes through the processing machine are possible; with each pass through this machine, the cremated remains become finer and softer in their consistency.
My brother-in-law supplements his small county Sheriff’s salary by working part time in a crematorium. When he was last here visiting, I showed him that photo of “Granny” wafting out to sea. He just laughed said that it looked more like someone cleaned out the fireplace.
(ref. photo at #19)
What they (Barry and his sister) are throwing off the cliff does not appear to be cremation material as I was familiar with it. What you say is true. Along with some “dust/ash-like” material, a cremation contains a lot of very solid material from pea sized to as big as a dime. Gravel is a pretty good description of it. It's not just ash.
Looks to me as though they dumped the contents of their flour canister off the cliff. Not a cremation though. That pic always bothered me.
When ORYR made the audio montage last week, inexplicably he overlooked and left out the Evans statement from the Austin, Texas station that Abercrombie used as search warrant to look over the Hawaiian hospital records. The Evans statement is crystal clear.
There is a listing for The Won’s mother in the Social Security Death Index. The papers for her divorce from Lolo Soetoro include consent for her to return to her maiden name, which she apparently did, as her Social Security identification at her death was Stanley Ann Dunham.
The Latter Day Saints have a web site: familysearch.org
The site provides free access to the Mormon’s vast record-keeping. The search forms are easy to figure out, and open the door to records of births, marriages, deaths, US census from 1880 - all kinds of fascinating info.
First time I've seen the "scattering" photo above and, if legit, what struck me is the volume of the "ash". Was Grannie a large woman? Also, the color seems odd. In my experience it was a much more "Grey" tone, but that may be a factor of the physical cremation equipment, process, temperature, etc.
Were there Obituaries for any of his family?
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