Lost in Translation: Gov. Abercrombie Used a Search Warrant to get Obama's Birth Certificate !?

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[Plummz]

I doubt this celebrity reporter is a legal genius. He probably doesn’t know what a search warrant even really is.

[LucyT]

Lost in Translation: Gov. Abercrombie Used a Search Warrant to get Obama's Birth Certificate !?

Check out # 9 , # 14 , # 16 , # 19 , and more.

[Thanks for the pings.]

[bgill]

He should get a search warrant for Granny’s death certificate, too, while he’s at it

Amen to that!

I'd like to know what judge he found to sign the warrant. IMO, this is just more nonsense from Gov Pothead just like "it's written in the Archives" when BC's are not kept in the archives.

[Fred Nerks]

...Our path may follow the ‘ashes-to-ashes, dust-to-dust’ route, but if we’re cremated, a portion of the path to ashes and dust is as dime, nickel, and quarter-sized boney rocks...

I totally agree. Having been party to the scattering of the cremated remains of relatives on three separate occasions, I was totally bemused by the image of what appeared to be the wafting into the ocean breeze of Hawaii -what appeared to be fine sand. The real thing is as you say:

dime, nickel, and quarter-sized boney rocks.

[bgill]

Sure, typical white granny is on her deathbed and he didn't take the wife or grandkids to see her one last time. He stopped the whole campaign to rush to her side only to spend 30 minutes with her before heading out to the play a few rounds. Then what an amazing coinky-dink she “supposedly” dies election night and is cremated instead of being buried beside her husband in the family plot. And there hasn't been a single neighbor from where she lived for the last 40 years speak publicly of her, no friend, no bank coworker, no grocery clerk, no social club member, no no one. Riiiiight.

[Faith]

Some good info here regarding your questions:

http://www.cremationinfo.com/cremationinfo/Questions.htm#look

[bgill]

I haven’t seen any scattering of ashes myself, but do a search for “scattering ashes” and there are similar pictures. Of course, I’m sure there are similar pictures for busted bags of flour, too.

[autumnraine]

I said that back when they scattered them. My dad’s ashes were scattered on a mountain top, so the wind would be similar as on the edge of an oceanic cliff. Even with all that wind, on the ledge of a mountain... it essentially went “clunk” in a big pile under the cliff. It wasn’t “ashes” in any traditional sense of the word.

[kalee]

My mother was cremated last year. Her remains that we placed in a memorial garden were grayish white ash, no chunks or gravel sized pieces. Finer than fireplace ash.
Some places such as where my mother was cremated use something similar to a blender/grinder to break the remains down further so they are a powdery ash.
I had been warned by others that the pouring of her remains into the open grave night be graphic as there might be teeth or bone fragments but there was not because of the process the crematorium she went to used.

[Fred Nerks]

Now here's something I didn't know:

The cremated remains -- essentially a mass of course ash along with bone fragments of various sizes at this point -- will now be processed in a machine that will pulverize the cremated remains to a uniform size. Multiple passes through the processing machine are possible; with each pass through this machine, the cremated remains become finer and softer in their consistency.

source

[Rushmore Rocks]

My brother-in-law supplements his small county Sheriff’s salary by working part time in a crematorium. When he was last here visiting, I showed him that photo of “Granny” wafting out to sea. He just laughed said that it looked more like someone cleaned out the fireplace.

(ref. photo at #19)

[MWestMom]

“What I saw contained no ‘ash’, no ‘dust’ - nothing which would come anywhere near to wafting off in a wind, let alone a breeze.”

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I worked for a funeral home many moons ago as a young woman. My sadistic boss made me stick my hand in what he told me was packing material to see what was in the tin. I dug around before he told me it was a cremation. So, I was really up close and personal.

What they (Barry and his sister) are throwing off the cliff does not appear to be cremation material as I was familiar with it. What you say is true. Along with some “dust/ash-like” material, a cremation contains a lot of very solid material from pea sized to as big as a dime. Gravel is a pretty good description of it. It's not just ash.

Looks to me as though they dumped the contents of their flour canister off the cliff. Not a cremation though. That pic always bothered me.

[Red Steel]

When ORYR made the audio montage last week, inexplicably he overlooked and left out the Evans statement from the Austin, Texas station that Abercrombie used as search warrant to look over the Hawaiian hospital records. The Evans statement is crystal clear.

[GGMac]

There is a listing for The Won’s mother in the Social Security Death Index. The papers for her divorce from Lolo Soetoro include consent for her to return to her maiden name, which she apparently did, as her Social Security identification at her death was Stanley Ann Dunham.

The Latter Day Saints have a web site: familysearch.org

The site provides free access to the Mormon’s vast record-keeping. The search forms are easy to figure out, and open the door to records of births, marriages, deaths, US census from 1880 - all kinds of fascinating info.

[CanaGuy]

Although rare in my circle, I've seen the remains of three cremations up close. Two in urns and one in a (travel) cardboard box where the remains were in a heavy plastic bag inside the box. Of the three, I have never seen any particles larger than a sesame seed, if that large. Your description of "quarter-sized" pieces is rather unsettling.

First time I've seen the "scattering" photo above and, if legit, what struck me is the volume of the "ash". Was Grannie a large woman? Also, the color seems odd. In my experience it was a much more "Grey" tone, but that may be a factor of the physical cremation equipment, process, temperature, etc.

[CanaGuy]

Were there Obituaries for any of his family?

[Hotlanta Mike]

FMD Ping => post #52

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2664555/posts?q=1&;page=51

[jarofants]

I also find it strange they cremated grandpas and buried the ashes, yet grandmas they cremated and threw them into the ocean. Why wouldn't you bury the grandmothers ashes next to grandpas? Is he worried someday they will be able to do DNA on ashes or something?

[The Comedian]

Interesting point, I didn't realize gramps' dust was interred.

Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.