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Obama's Two Step Strategy to Defeat Palin and Why It is Doomed to Fail
1/07/2011 | Brices Crossroads

Posted on 01/07/2011 1:05:49 PM PST by Brices Crossroads

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To: Wooly
The following is a serious question ... what were Obama's "numbers" among independents in January 2007? A lot can happen in a few months much less a year and 10 months. Granted, she may be damaged goods as opposed to a complete blank slate like the "clean and articulate" One.

Look, if she runs she will be on stage with all the other candidates and will do one of three things, outshine them all and prove just how thoroughly the press has been lying about her for the last two years, or stumble a bit, get pounced on and joked about even worse, and be defeated in the early primaries, or fall apart completely and not even come close. Personally, I think the woman is hugely underestimated and that alone makes things interesting for both the primaries and general election.

I do see your point about "true believers" (a'la the Perot example) not recognizing what an uphill fight she would face. But the expectations for her have been set so low it's hard to say what would happen of she gets a chance to connect with people who have been told she's a backwater "moron" or how women will react if they empathize with her (hate to use this word) "victimhood".

81 posted on 01/07/2011 2:56:41 PM PST by katana
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To: Bruinator

Gee, I didn’t think I’d have to qualify that any better than I already have. I was clearly speaking about the press. Why didn’t you object to the statements about Bush, Dole and McCain.


82 posted on 01/07/2011 2:59:00 PM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Outstanding analysis, BC. Thanks.


83 posted on 01/07/2011 2:59:18 PM PST by Al B. (Sarah Palin: "Buck up or stay in the truck.")
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To: Brices Crossroads; Jim Scott

I hope that Sarah reads your excellent posts.


84 posted on 01/07/2011 3:00:17 PM PST by JPG (YES SHE CAN!)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Without trying to engage in a mutual admiration society, I really like your critique; it's spot on!

We are in complete agreement, re Governor Palin.

With a cold eye, no emotion, and a firm/full knowledge of history and politics, it is blatantly obvious ( to all except those who refuse to see reality ), there truly isn't anyone named or even unnamed, who could be the GOP presidential candidate, in '12, and beat Obama.

A black GOPer ? No way! And for the Herman Cainites........he's a black version of Ross Perot, except he did once do a political run and lost badly.

Some mostly/completely unknown Congress Critter, new governor, or far too well known hack pol? It is to laugh! Perry, Christie, and Jindal have all said, repeatedly, that they are NOT going to run. DeMint has also said that he is NOT in the running. Pawlenty, Pence, and Ryan? Oh please.........no no more damned Congress Critter no name recognition, with no executive experience!

Newtie, Mitten, and the Huckster? You wanna talk about even more baggage than Sarah has and NO real following? LOL

And the canards that Sarah can't win the primary/won't run, are patently ridiculous!

85 posted on 01/07/2011 3:07:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JPG

“I hope that Sarah reads your excellent posts.”

Thanks. Very kind of you.

Whether she reads them or not she is herself following a winning strategy. My observations are really nothing more than summaries of her own actions and her (or I should say, OUR) adversaries’ reactions to them, against the backdrop of political history. I think she has read a lot of history and political history, particularly of the 1980 campaign.


86 posted on 01/07/2011 3:07:27 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: nopardons

You are right, nopardons. To most of us here at FR, it is self evident that she is the right candidate, a once in a generation if not half century phenom.

By a process of elimination, however, you prove to the doubters that Palin is the only one because they have no one else who is a) running; b) a real conservative; and c) has the political talent to dislodge a sitting, elected President.

Defeating an elected, incumbent President has only been done only twice since World War II, and in each case it was done by a candidate (Reagan and Clinton) who had remarkable forensic political talent, or charisma. Among the current crop, it is self evident that Palin is the only one who possesses such talent. And she has double fist fulls of it.


88 posted on 01/07/2011 3:16:48 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: DesertRhino
Your post got me to thinking... obama got elected because:

1) Any republican was seen as an extension of Bush... and Bush's numbers were in the tank.

2) America wanted change... they were tired of hearing about the threat of terrorism... they were tired of Iraq and Afghanistan... they wanted “change”.

3) obama did not run his main campaign on his leftist ideology. he promised America another Ronald Reagan... he quoted Reagan... he referenced Reagan in every debate... he gave America kruchev... he promised Reagan.

he did tell the left exactly what it was that he was going to do. He promised to disarm us... break the rich... cut out all of our nukes... drive coal out of business... universal health care... reparations, declared thet the Constitution was "Fundamentally flawed" and that he was going to change that... one way or another... "transform" he would state... and along with those he promised hundreds of other leftist wet dreams. The press refused to cover anything bad about him or truthful for that matter... because... drum roll...

4) he was black, clean and articulate... according to biden.

LLS

89 posted on 01/07/2011 3:21:32 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Polybius

RASMUSSEN'S POLL: 52% of Voters Say Their Views Are More Like Palin’s Than Obama’s

Whose views are closer to your own? Palin/Obama

Overall: 52/40

Male: 55/37
Female: 48/43
White: 58/35
Black: 5/87
GOP: 84/9
DEM: 14/81
INDY: 59/27
Conservative: 80/12
Moderate: 28/61
Liberal: 14/85

90 posted on 01/07/2011 3:22:29 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW!)
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To: Polybius

Sarah Palin is like Katherine Harris? That is a stretch, even for you.

In 2006, a huge Democrat year, Katherine Harris—a badly flawed candidate— ran for the Senate and lost by 22 points. The same big Democrat year—2006—Sarah Palin ran against and defeated an incumbent GOP governor in the primary, the went on to defeat a two term Democrat Governor in the general election by 10 points.

They are both similar because they are attractive women. There are so many differences, including the fact that Harris is prochoice, that I am not going to list them for you. Look them up.

You look silly. As usual.


91 posted on 01/07/2011 3:28:25 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: nopardons; Wooly
First of all, Ross Perot was a THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE! Sarah Palin has said that she wouldn't run as some fringe party candidate.

I hate to break the news to you but, nowadays, the Republicans ARE the "Third Party".

Independents slightly outnumber Democrats and both the Democrats and the Independents outnumber Republicans. Even if Sarah Palin got every single Republican vote, it would still leave 71% of all voters outside of her Fan Club.

Of that 71%, Sarah Palin's poll numbers with Indepedents are lower than whale scat at the bottom of the ocean and Democrats will not vote for her.

That is why the latest polls show Sarah Palin trailing Obama by 22%.

Sarah Palin can win a Free Republic popularity poll running away and she can even win a Republican nomination by winning over the 60% of Republicans who call themselves conservatives.

That, however, (60% of 29%) only gives her a solid base of less than 18% of all voters.

A solid base of only 18% of all voters with a negative rating in the latest polls of 50% of all voters will be a guaranteed electoral disaster of Biblical proportions in the general election.

92 posted on 01/07/2011 3:30:42 PM PST by Polybius
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To: onyx
Black: 5/87

Just... wow

93 posted on 01/07/2011 3:31:31 PM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Too much bs• here to haul in one load, may take several trips.


94 posted on 01/07/2011 3:31:55 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Polybius

Your post misogynistic and disingenous post 87 went away, courtesy of the mods. Why don’t you follow suit?

Your early polls are so boring. I can show you polls from 1979 showing Jimmah beating Reagan 57-35. Do you really think you are convincing anyone? Go back to Mitt Central.


95 posted on 01/07/2011 3:34:56 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: org.whodat

“Too much bs• here to haul in one load, may take several trips.”

Well, it is a short trip from the end of your nose.


96 posted on 01/07/2011 3:36:09 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: mo

That last sentence gasps for air.


97 posted on 01/07/2011 3:39:09 PM PST by Orbiter
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To: hattend

Yeah! Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Represenative’s Scott and West, Justice Clarrence Thomas... etc.


98 posted on 01/07/2011 3:40:50 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW!)
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To: Brices Crossroads; org.whodat
Well, it is a short trip from the end of your nose.

ROTFLOLOL.

WHACK!

99 posted on 01/07/2011 3:43:14 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW!)
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To: Polybius

fyi - 4 OF 10 DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS TEA PARTY VOTERS [aka] SARAH PALIN VOTERS.


100 posted on 01/07/2011 3:45:10 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW!)
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