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Will Obama Silence Blundering Abercrombie?(Hawaii's 'Progressive' Gov./Certifigate)
American Thinker ^ | January 3, 2011 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 01/03/2011 2:35:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama held off in his breakthrough keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic convention for all of 46 words... before sharing his story with the world. At the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver, Obama leaped into the story in the very first sentence.

There is barely a new story that doesn't begin with "born in Hawaii." Funny, no other politician's supposed birth place is crammed down the voters' throats as much as Hussien's. Why is that, hmmm? That old saying about telling a lie so many times that it finally becomes the truth comes to mind.

61 posted on 01/03/2011 2:00:38 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: jamese777

“I’d rather have a birth certificate released by the state than one released by Obama.”

Me too but Obama knows exactly what is on that BC. So if he is not eligible to be President he knew it all along and I believe its a felony to lie or commit fraud to run for President.


62 posted on 01/03/2011 2:08:04 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: F15Eagle

Wait, so it’s photoshopped? Did you photoshop it or who did?

Yeah, wolf, we drive by there all the time. I checked and it wasn’t taken from google maps.


63 posted on 01/03/2011 2:24:04 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: wolfcreek

ping


64 posted on 01/03/2011 2:28:16 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: jamese777; bvw
jamese777, on **every** birther thread you post Lingle’s and Fukino’s highly massaged and oh sooooooo carefully crafted statements. Who cares a twit what they do or do not think when there is proof available to definitively settle the matter?

Gee!...Since it is soooooooo above board and transparent why doesn't Mr. Obama just promptly prove ( with the best evidence) that he is indeed a natural born citizen and has,( and never has had)), any allegiance to another nation?

It is **SIMPLE** to prove one’s natural born citizenship. American “serfs” ( those “little” people) do it all the time for many reasons.

Fundamentally...It is very SIMPLE!! Obama has gone to considerable effort and expense ( some of that is tax dollars) to prevent proving that he is a natural born citizen.

A **real** American president would be HONORED to prove with the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and does not, and never had allegiance to another nation. He would be especially **HONORED** to do that for the military.

How can Obama’s stonewalling on his eligibilty be good for military morale?

Just yesterday I read a Free Republic headline that, on average, an American soldier is **KILLED** in Afghanistan every 18 hours. I'd say that those men and women and their families deserve to **KNOW** that the man sending these soldiers to their deaths is indeed a legitimate president and not a usurper!

jamese777, Obama is losing this BIG TIME in the one court that matters the most: The Court of Public Opinion.

Every day more and more Americans are concluding that Obama can NOT prove he is a natural born citizen because is is NOT a natural born citizen.

65 posted on 01/03/2011 2:35:03 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: bushpilot1

LOL...that reminds me of a poster I had when I was a kid “Fly United”


66 posted on 01/03/2011 2:49:10 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: jamese777; butterdezillion
I was being a bit tricky with you about the distinction between a "news release" and a "statement release" ;-).

But not foolish about the other points.

It was interesting to see on what point you hung most of your answer!

In any case your original Lingle quote was from 2008 and Fukimo, MD, did not release his statement until 2009. So she was not referring to that.

And even the 2009 Fukino's statement is less terse, but it's slightly greater verbosity is inscrutable and ambiguous. He says he has seen , "original vital records maintained on file" by Hawaii DOH. What are those? We do not know. They could be merely a statement noting a birth by a family member or related party, or something else -- who knows? He doesn't say notice from a hospital, nor even the word "certificate". What are the kinds of things that Hawaii DOH has file as "original viral records"? Do you know? I do not. Maybe Butterdezillion does!

But Fukino, MD, then makes a professional miscue, perhaps even a breach of professional ethics. What is that? Well, I know that I can't give people medical advice posing as a professional. But how can MD Fukino then give LEGAL advice when he asserts that Obama is a "natural-born citizen"? In context that's a unique term of art in Constitutional Law. On what professional basis has Md Fukino made such a bold statement of legal fact determination? On what authority?

If the original vital record is the mere word of a grandparent MD Fukino might have been able to justify -- to himself and cronies -- that by that alone he could make his assertion. In any case, as I understand Hawaiian records law, his statement created an opportunity to request an explanation of the basis for his bold claim of "natural-born citizen" status. What do you know of that?

67 posted on 01/03/2011 3:17:28 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Dr. Chiyome Fukino:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wnd.com/images/headshots/chiyomefukino.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wnd.com/%3FpageId%3D105242&usg=__kUWeiJJW5WLcJ4hNXfKNvnhAXEY=&h=219&w=300&sz=64&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=V5bq581L4e6Q1M:&tbnh=123&tbnw=179&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDr.%2BChiyome%2Bfukino%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4TSND_en___US407%26biw%3D935%26bih%3D404%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=322&vpy=134&dur=515&hovh=175&hovw=240&tx=135&ty=192&ei=P1siTYb7DI6ksQO-gu2HCg&oei=P1siTYb7DI6ksQO-gu2HCg&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=9&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0


68 posted on 01/03/2011 3:30:54 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Oh! Thanks!

Fukino, MD


Female.

69 posted on 01/03/2011 3:41:10 PM PST by bvw
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To: FrogMom; Wild Irish Rogue

The fact is that in Aug. 1961 the papers printed different lists, because they did not get them from the state DOH or whatever. Not all births were announced in the papers. Someone has done a lot of legwork on this - more than one person - and I’ll try to find the link, I posted it the other day and others have too.


70 posted on 01/03/2011 3:41:16 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: FrogMom; Wild Irish Rogue

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/extra-extra-announcing-obamas-birth/

There may be more page on the blog that have info. I read a whole bunch over there quite some time ago but not lately.


71 posted on 01/03/2011 3:43:20 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: FrogMom; Wild Irish Rogue

Oh, and this from yesterday, more on the announcement issue:

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/


72 posted on 01/03/2011 3:46:37 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: wintertime

jamese777, on **every** birther thread you post Lingle’s and Fukino’s highly massaged and oh sooooooo carefully crafted statements. Who cares a twit what they do or do not think when there is proof available to definitively settle the matter?
Gee!...Since it is soooooooo above board and transparent why doesn’t Mr. Obama just promptly prove ( with the best evidence) that he is indeed a natural born citizen and has,( and never has had)), any allegiance to another nation?

It is **SIMPLE** to prove one’s natural born citizenship. American “serfs” ( those “little” people) do it all the time for many reasons.

Fundamentally...It is very SIMPLE!! Obama has gone to considerable effort and expense ( some of that is tax dollars) to prevent proving that he is a natural born citizen.

A **real** American president would be HONORED to prove with the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and does not, and never had allegiance to another nation. He would be especially **HONORED** to do that for the military.

How can Obama’s stonewalling on his eligibilty be good for military morale?

Just yesterday I read a Free Republic headline that, on average, an American soldier is **KILLED** in Afghanistan every 18 hours. I’d say that those men and women and their families deserve to **KNOW** that the man sending these soldiers to their deaths is indeed a legitimate president and not a usurper!

jamese777, Obama is losing this BIG TIME in the one court that matters the most: The Court of Public Opinion.

Every day more and more Americans are concluding that Obama can NOT prove he is a natural born citizen because is is NOT a natural born citizen.


Well, I think that Judges and Justices care about those carefully crafted statements. Judges and justices understand bureaucrats carefully crafting statements so as not to leave themselves open to liability suits.

If Obama is losing big time, then he will be defeated at the polls in 2012 for the choices that he has made and that’s exactly as it should be.

I have probably posted 100 different times what I think should have happened and still could happen to resolve this issue: a grand jury investigation in any jurisdiction where the name Barack Hussein Obama was on the ballot.

It’s really quite that simple, in my humble opinion. If a grand jury finds evidence of a crime: fraud, perjury, falsifying documents, election fraud, or forgery, then indictments can be handed down and Obama can either resign or be impeached and convicted. EVERY major political scandal in modern history was resolved via a grand jury.
Any documents that Obama has spent millions to hide can be forced into the open via a subpoena.


73 posted on 01/03/2011 3:51:22 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jazzlite
we have no credible major news media to get to the bottom of it.

They were too busy putting together a dossier on Joe the plumber Wurzelbacher and staking out Palin's neighbors.

74 posted on 01/03/2011 3:57:02 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As is thoroughly documented, Ann and little Barry were in Seattle two weeks later, where she enrolled at the University of Washington. By the time she returned to Hawaii in late summer or fall 1962, Barack Sr. had left for Harvard for good.

First of all, it has not been documented that she moved to Seattle two weeks later. Yes, she registered for U of W extension courses for the Fall quarter of 1961, but courses don't start until the end of September. Hence there is no reason to expect she arrived in Seattle until September.

That leaves plenty of time for her to show up at a social event in Hawaii with her new baby.

Heck, even if she did leave two weeks after the birth, that still leaves enough time for her to show up at a social event in Hawaii with the new baby.

75 posted on 01/03/2011 4:03:08 PM PST by curiosity
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To: jamese777
Any documents that Obama has spent millions to hide can be forced into the open via a subpoena.
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Well....We now have a Republican majority in the House of Representatives, and Republicans ( state and federal) are on record that they will make an issue of Obama’s eligibility.

We will see.

77 posted on 01/03/2011 4:13:26 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: F15Eagle
I wish it said “Where’s the LONG FORM Birth Certificate”?

Yes, in some parts of the country, especially Texas, it could also refer to illegals. Wish it was really inside liberal Austin proper, like about I35 and Dean Keeton (Univ of Texas).

Ha, I've got some emails to send out!

78 posted on 01/03/2011 4:23:23 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks
If Abercrombie was such good friends with SADO and Obama, Sr, then why haven't we seen any photos of them together?


79 posted on 01/03/2011 4:41:22 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Now THAT was funny! ;-)


80 posted on 01/03/2011 4:56:29 PM PST by jamese777
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