Obama Can’t Prove He’s American

drkates view ^ | December 28, 2010 | drkate

[Red Steel]

Mark Levin has expressed for Obama to show his birth certificate a few times on his radio show in the last year. He has his doubts if Obama is qualified for presidential office as like the rest of us.

[bvw]

That’s what I remember too.

[Red Steel]

That’s what I remember too.

I've posted Levin saying so about 2 to 3 different times on FR.

[Red Steel]

TNTNT هو الأحمق

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

It bigger than the birth certificate. I remember during the campaign. Sarah Palin stated - He is not one of us (paraphrase). Seems he is working against us and has an agenda to make the US just another country. I think that is how he sees America. Not a country to be proud of or a strength for good globally. There are also constitutional issues and (IMO) possible fraud with how he represented himself to get elected.

In case I haven't been clear, I agree completely with that. I think it is much bigger than the birth certificate. But I think the birth certificate argument is an argument that 1) can't be won, 2) distracts the debate from the more potent argument about his view of the U.S., and 3) alienates people who might otherwise be swayed by part of 2).

I've repeat a point I made before -- you can be an anti-American scumbag (Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers) regardless of what your birth certificate says. So why push a polarizing argument that gains us nothing? It seems to me like a political kamikaze tactic. We want to repel this invader from our shores, so we're going to charge directly at the bad guys over an open field to prove how strongly we believe we're right.

The more these issues are kept in the spotlight. The harder it will be for a 2nd term.

Well, I think the birther issue gives him convenient political cover to dismiss/avoid the far more substantive criticisms of how he views this country.

[DJ MacWoW]

Talking heads don’t tell conservatives what to think. That’s a liberal fallacy. And one they always resort to. It certainly wasn’t a talking head that sparked the Tea Party movement.

[Red Steel]

The more these issues are kept in the spotlight. The harder it will be for a 2nd term.

Yes, the dingbat Dems had their worst election in 70 years. When there was a 126 seat swing in the House where the Dems lose 63 seats and the Repubs win them it is bad for the Dems. And any notion stating that this issue is helping the Dems is nonsensical and is a Dem talking point.

[little jeremiah]

Hey, noob -

Read this and then try to refute it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2651645/posts?page=75#40

(Comment #40)

[opentalk]

There are no background records.That takes diligence and collusion. I agree with Issa, seems the most corrupt administration ever. Based on the lack of respect for the will of American people, their money and the Constitution. I think anything about Obama is open to discussion and accountability.

Sarah Palin had state in the last campaign.

“He’s ‘not one of us"..“This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America,” she said. “We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism.”

At the time I didn't fully understand what she was warning about.

She was instantly attacked by the left as racist, McCain even made it off limits to question O.

The Birther stigma was manufactured by the left. It goes against common sense to not demand vetting of a president in all areas.

He will be asking for votes again very soon.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

oh, the noob thing hurts so badly. Anyway, it's a new screenname, but unless you were posting prior to 1999, I've been hear longer than you.

if you want me to address what you said in another thread, how about distilling that interlineated, somewhat rambling post to the point where it becomes comprehensible? You know, with paragraphs and complicated stuff like that?

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Look, I'll say this. I wish the media had dug into all this stuff, including his eligibility, prior to the 2008 election. I personally think states should have a requirement that any candidate prove that they meet the minimum qualifications for office before placing them on the ballot.

Unfortunately, that requirement wasn't on the books back then, and the issue has never caught on with the majority of voters. Whether or not the birther stigma was naufactured by the left or not, it has been effective. That is the reality in which we live, and it's been effective to the point where no Rpeublicans of significance anywhere Congress will take up the cause. Considering what it takes to remove a President, that's a pretty huge obstacle to overcome.

Personally, I think the best tactic birthers could take is to shut up completely about Obama's birthplace. Instead, go state by state (you only need a few) and push for neutral legislation requiring candidates for President to prove they are eligible. That's just common sense. But don't mention Obama by name. You can accomplish the exact same goal, but in a manner that doesn't subject the issue to ridicule.

[Darksheare]

I don't know, but this post does put the information in very easily read sections.

[Fantasywriter]

Please post Mark Levin’s exact quote and a link for verification.

[opentalk]

I have to respectfully disagree to the stigma of asking to release birth records. As time goes on more people are scratching their head, to why Obama chooses not to be more transparent.

This is not discussed in isolation. His whole alliance to this country and his agenda are questionable.

The lack of the records are part of the whole picture.

[jda]

Some other questions:

- Why is it that no one who was Columbia when Obama was supposedly there ever saw him, had a class with him, or knew of him - his picture is not even in the year book?

- Why is it that his law license was inactivated in 2002?

- Why is it that Michelle’s law license was inactivated (by court order)?

- Why is it that his current social security number originated in Connecticut, but he apparently never lived there?

There are some very, very strange questions about the man who is trying to destroy our country.

[opentalk]

Yes, too many questions. We would be crazy not to demand questions and keep the heat on. These are only his background records.

Can you imaging what is being done while governing - all the money they are redistributing and Chicago style politics

It should be interesting how forthcoming they will be with any documents demanded during Issa investigations.

[TNTNT]

Thank you. I did not know his FReeper handle, otherwise I would have pinged him. I hope he responds. :)

[little jeremiah]

So, what was your previous screen name? And were you banned? Why do you have a new screen name?

You’re instilling defeatism and that is an enemy tactic.

[opentalk]

demand answers

[TNTNT]

This is another Red Steel falsehood. I am all in favor of every state passing a President Eligibility law. The one I proposed to you the other day is the law require each presidential candidate, prior to their name being allowed on the ballot, to submit a certified copy of their birth certificate, and that the birth certificate conform to the requirements needed to receive a US passport. This will ensure that the candidate is an NBC and constitutionally qualified or office. The language in the bill is easy to understand for the public and any legislator who needs convincing. It is also so reasonable that even the dumbocrats can't object to it.